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I observe the Ukrainian drama for many years. I strongly suspect that the actual game maybe the opposite of the picture in the media. Ukraine is looted to the

I observe the Ukrainian drama for many years. I strongly suspect that the actual game maybe the opposite of the picture in the media. Ukraine is looted to the bone and the economy is in downward spiral. The beneficiaries of the looting may need a war to write it all off. Meanwhile, if Putin takes Ukraine, he would shoulder a giant pile of debt, plus the responsibility for everything that happens. So the actual game might be like: how to make Putin take Ukraine.

gritzko 5y ago
OK guys, OK, please stop downvoting. Russia invades Ukraine because Russians hate freedom.
gritzko 5y ago
> External Debt in Ukraine increased to 125281 USD Million in the second quarter of 2021 from 123107 USD Million in the first quarter of 2021. source: National Bank of Ukraine This is comparable to the Soviet Union debt just before the collapse.
lostmsu 5y ago
You don't think Russia is looted to the bone and is not in a downward spiral? Just look at the tech sector there. Yandex is barely alive, and VK is now a property of Mail.Ru group. Outside of tech the economical situation prior to invasion was barely better than Ukraine's.
artem247 5y ago
Okay, have you ever been to Ukraine? What does it mean - looted to the bone? Why do you think Ukraine is that much different to Russia? Ukraine GDP is improving from 2016 till now, even with pandemic. Some industries, like software and agriculture are growing at a great rate. Yet, some guy who watches Russian TV is painting absurd picture Again, you don't know how external debt works, debt had nothing to do with collapse of Soviet Union, learn the history of your own country. Even then, Ukraine has lower debt to GDP ratio then Japan, Italy, Greece, United States, Canada, Spain, France, Belgium, United Kingdom, Israel... Something that Russians tell themselves every day - how everything is very bad in Ukraine, how it is going down. Sure. Oh, you observe the 'drame', with your all-seeing eye, fucking cockroach.
- gritzko 5y ago
  Wow

gritzko 5y ago

OK guys, OK, please stop downvoting. Russia invades Ukraine because Russians hate freedom.

gritzko 5y ago

> External Debt in Ukraine increased to 125281 USD Million in the second quarter of 2021 from 123107 USD Million in the first quarter of 2021. source: National Bank of Ukraine This is comparable to the Soviet Union debt just before the collapse.

lostmsu 5y ago

You don't think Russia is looted to the bone and is not in a downward spiral? Just look at the tech sector there. Yandex is barely alive, and VK is now a property of Mail.Ru group. Outside of tech the economical situation prior to invasion was barely better than Ukraine's.

artem247 5y ago

Okay, have you ever been to Ukraine? What does it mean - looted to the bone? Why do you think Ukraine is that much different to Russia? Ukraine GDP is improving from 2016 till now, even with pandemic. Some industries, like software and agriculture are growing at a great rate. Yet, some guy who watches Russian TV is painting absurd picture Again, you don't know how external debt works, debt had nothing to do with collapse of Soviet Union, learn the history of your own country. Even then, Ukraine has lower debt to GDP ratio then Japan, Italy, Greece, United States, Canada, Spain, France, Belgium, United Kingdom, Israel... Something that Russians tell themselves every day - how everything is very bad in Ukraine, how it is going down. Sure. Oh, you observe the 'drame', with your all-seeing eye, fucking cockroach.

gritzko 5y ago
Wow