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Reddit's /r/place is perhaps an interesting counter example. It started that way, but as space on the image grew tight and contested, all of that kind of stuff
by Laremere 5y ago
Reddit's /r/place is perhaps an interesting counter example. It started that way, but as space on the image grew tight and contested, all of that kind of stuff went away. Towards the middle and end, the only significant images were those which could get enough people on board to maintain, and people tend to care more about other stuff, it seems.
I'd say it comes down to the balance of (# of people who make a positive impact * difficulty of positive impact) vs the same for negative impact.
Wikipedia is another example. Sure plenty of people make stupid edits, but enough effort is put into detecting and immediately reverting the vandalism that the effort required to properly vandalize it quickly goes beyond the effort most people will go for a stupid joke.
- Retric 5y agoFor good or ill, I don’t think Wikipedia qualifies as globally editable anymore.
- chalst 5y agoNot all pages are, and quite a few IP ranges are blocked, but there is plenty of content being added by non-logged-in editors.
- Retric 5y agoYes, editable != globally editable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy On top of this, bots such as ClueBot will most dong postings on even less trafficked locations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClueBot_NG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClueBot_NG
- earthboundkid 5y agoMy vandalism from 2011 is still up though, thanks to being protected by a bogus citation. :-)
- tptacek 5y agoA weird thing to be proud of.
- earthboundkid 5y agoMy own personal joke is likely to endure for dozens of years, possibly for the remainder of human history, because no one reads the citations? I’m a little proud of that.
- DNied 5y agoJust like who knows how many bits of false information. Which then get copied, pasted and repeated across the web and the world. I've randomly found several, and I'm just one person.
- SavantIdiot 5y agoThe last two apartments I lived in had Comcast and the IPs were banned from editing. Very weird.
- culi 5y agothe majority of wikipedia is still editable without even having an account
- Jenk 5y agoand programmability. Most publically manipulable stuff only gets hijacked by a few people with a bit of time and a few scripts. PitBull/Bieber "Where to perform next?" online polls, that ML Twitter bot MS recalled (was it Tammy or something?) etc were all attacked by spam bot style flooding of votes and messages to poison the data, and it's a lot easier to just spam incoherent unpleasantries than it is to spam coherent substantial messages. AFAIK Reddit's /r/space didn't have any obvious vectors of attack so after the 1,000th manual entry of the n-word the trolls just got bored.
- Laremere 5y agoPlenty of people used bots on /r/place, but there were two mitigating factors: 1. You could only make a single pixel change once every (iirc) 5 minutes. 2. Only user accounts created before the (entirely unannounced) event could participate, preventing people bypassing the time limit with more accounts.
- Jenk 5y agoSpam mitigation by rate limiting and preventing account cycling :)
- teddyh 5y ago> that ML Twitter bot MS recalled (was it Tammy or something?) Tay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot)
- kple 5y agolike the swedish flag
- SavantIdiot 5y ago/r/place was weeeeeiiird. It figured there'd be some trolls, but not massive troll brigades intent on spreading every form of hate the world has seen from the last century. The number of people that were involved was in the 100,000's battling to control the content. If I let myself wax poetic, I saw /r/place as a proxy for the coming internet faction wars: WW3 won't be fought by countries, it will be fought by internet factions.