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Kobayashi is also canonically a Python programmer, so this doubly fits on HN :) https://i.imgur.com/oxjqM1A.png https://i.imgur.com/oxjqM1A.png

by Lammy 5y ago

arrakeen 5y ago
i could've sworn i saw kobayashi using a kana keyboard in one episode and thought that would be difficult to program with. does anyone here know if kana keyboards just have hiragana overlaid over the qwerty layout?
- Lammy 5y ago
  QWERTY JIS layouts are common, yeah. Just hit the 英数 key! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/MacBookProJISKeyboard-1.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/MacBookP...
Hamuko 5y ago
https://github.com/webpy/webpy/blob/16533d3a52065e5ed156219af3858919118c1f5f/web/session.py#L127-L154 https://github.com/webpy/webpy/blob/16533d3a52065e5ed156219a...
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  Damn kids, get off my issue tracker! https://github.com/webpy/webpy/issues/420 https://github.com/webpy/webpy/issues/420
  - NoGravitas 5y ago
    420, nice.
- onurtag 5y ago
  I recognize that code.
trinovantes 5y ago
I like how the function names are in English but comments are in Japanese Don't most modern compilers allow utf-8 characters in symbol names?
- YouMeWeThem 5y ago
  I'm a programmer in Japan. This is completely normal. It looks ridiculous to have English syntax mixed in with Japanese variables, not great for legibility.
- Lammy 5y ago
  Supported as of Python 2.3; default as of 3.0: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3120/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3120/ Also default in Ruby as of 2.0: https://ruby-doc.org/core/Encoding.html#class-Encoding-label-Script+encoding https://ruby-doc.org/core/Encoding.html#class-Encoding-label...
- deleted 5y ago
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- makeitdouble 5y ago
  UTF-8 is allowed, but it's a trap. Nowadays it's less of an issue, but back in the days windows, mac and linux all used different default encodings. This meant that opening and saving the source file in one of the system could mess it all depending on the editor and how careful the devs are. Also, there is the canonical writing issue, where you can write different utf-8 strings that all end up displayed the same. It's not an issue if it's just display text, it's a different story if you have a method that doesn't get called because the byte sequence was different, or more subtly hash indexes that seem to match but actually don't. BTW there are companies that write some of the UT methods right in Japanese, as it matters less, and it's quite fun as there is less restrictions on what can be put in the identifier (full-width parenthesis, spaces, comma etc, are allowed in that context)
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  I am not from Japan, but do work in two languages other than English (both official here). This is pretty typical actually. English names for identifiers (sometimes badly translated or simply transliterated), local languages for comments.
Bendy 5y ago
I discovered the cPickle module thanks to this show.
jcun4128 5y ago
I always like pausing code stuff I see in shows to see if it's legit or random garbage. For example recently in the Netflix Cowboy Bebop they had this bootloader that appeared to be a mix of JavaScript, PHP and Python. Also great show (KMD) last season's OP was great.
smukherjee19 5y ago
Nice! In case anyone is wondering what those Japanese comments say: # Check if the IP address has changed """ Generate a random session ID """ Seems accurate. :)

Kobayashi is also canonically a Python programmer, so this doubly fits on HN :) https://i.imgur.com/oxjqM1A.png https://i.imgur.com/oxjqM1A.png

by Lammy 5y ago

Kobayashi is also canonically a Python programmer, so this doubly fits on HN :) https://i.imgur.com/oxjqM1A.png https://i.imgur.com/oxjqM1A.png

arrakeen 5y ago

i could've sworn i saw kobayashi using a kana keyboard in one episode and thought that would be difficult to program with. does anyone here know if kana keyboards just have hiragana overlaid over the qwerty layout?

Lammy 5y ago
QWERTY JIS layouts are common, yeah. Just hit the 英数 key! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/MacBookProJISKeyboard-1.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/MacBookP...

Hamuko 5y ago

https://github.com/webpy/webpy/blob/16533d3a52065e5ed156219af3858919118c1f5f/web/session.py#L127-L154 https://github.com/webpy/webpy/blob/16533d3a52065e5ed156219a...

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
Damn kids, get off my issue tracker! https://github.com/webpy/webpy/issues/420 https://github.com/webpy/webpy/issues/420
- NoGravitas 5y ago
  420, nice.
onurtag 5y ago
I recognize that code.

trinovantes 5y ago

I like how the function names are in English but comments are in Japanese Don't most modern compilers allow utf-8 characters in symbol names?

YouMeWeThem 5y ago
I'm a programmer in Japan. This is completely normal. It looks ridiculous to have English syntax mixed in with Japanese variables, not great for legibility.
Lammy 5y ago
Supported as of Python 2.3; default as of 3.0: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3120/ https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3120/ Also default in Ruby as of 2.0: https://ruby-doc.org/core/Encoding.html#class-Encoding-label-Script+encoding https://ruby-doc.org/core/Encoding.html#class-Encoding-label...
deleted 5y ago
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makeitdouble 5y ago
UTF-8 is allowed, but it's a trap. Nowadays it's less of an issue, but back in the days windows, mac and linux all used different default encodings. This meant that opening and saving the source file in one of the system could mess it all depending on the editor and how careful the devs are. Also, there is the canonical writing issue, where you can write different utf-8 strings that all end up displayed the same. It's not an issue if it's just display text, it's a different story if you have a method that doesn't get called because the byte sequence was different, or more subtly hash indexes that seem to match but actually don't. BTW there are companies that write some of the UT methods right in Japanese, as it matters less, and it's quite fun as there is less restrictions on what can be put in the identifier (full-width parenthesis, spaces, comma etc, are allowed in that context)
5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
I am not from Japan, but do work in two languages other than English (both official here). This is pretty typical actually. English names for identifiers (sometimes badly translated or simply transliterated), local languages for comments.

Bendy 5y ago

I discovered the cPickle module thanks to this show.

jcun4128 5y ago

I always like pausing code stuff I see in shows to see if it's legit or random garbage. For example recently in the Netflix Cowboy Bebop they had this bootloader that appeared to be a mix of JavaScript, PHP and Python. Also great show (KMD) last season's OP was great.

smukherjee19 5y ago

Nice! In case anyone is wondering what those Japanese comments say: # Check if the IP address has changed """ Generate a random session ID """ Seems accurate. :)