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it once was like this already. You can spin up your site anytime. You can use tor hidden services to make yourself uncensorable. No need for crypto, pay in know

by arpa 5y ago

it once was like this already. You can spin up your site anytime. You can use tor hidden services to make yourself uncensorable. No need for crypto, pay in knowledge only. And that's why web 1.0 was superior. edit, ok, tor appeared with web2.0, but still it is more of a web 1.3.

ipaddr 5y ago
No you can't any visitor using chrome gives away your hidden public website. Recreating web 1.0 with todays spyware browsers requires a tor setup.
vmception 5y ago
yes web 1.0 had potential but the consolidation of platforms and their protocols made it untenable ISPs can deplatform ICANN and ENOM can deplatform Nations can force them to deplatform and effectively censor your web 1.0 server can be unreachable or unable to serve data a TOR onion service is subject to the same distributed denial of service Reading from a blockchain is not, and the costs for writing to it are one-off and low
- arpa 5y ago
  somebody will still have to store and serve the blockchain, right? So same problems...
- dmitriid 5y ago
  > yes web 1.0 had potential but the consolidation of platforms and their protocols made it untenable Unlike web3, where they platforms chose to write custom metadata to the blockchain and interpret as they so chose... Oh wait.
  - vmception 5y ago
    lol. I can appreciate that take. there likely will be a day where there is nobody left who knows how to use dominant blockchains and rely on a few company controlled platforms to do everything for them, so there is nobody left to communicate with when using the public utilities in the most raw form. For now, that's not the case and education is expanding. Not as fast as the uneducated users of blockchains, but some of them dive deeper too.
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      > For now, that's not the case Even now this is the case. It's a bit more spread because many people jump on the bandwagon and try to maximize their scams^W profits. But then you get news like "Peter Molyneux releasing next game on Gala Games platform", and this is exactly what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter how many users and devs you "educate". If Platform X doesn't recognize Platform Y's metadata, no amount of blockchain will help you.

by arpa 5y ago

ipaddr 5y ago

No you can't any visitor using chrome gives away your hidden public website. Recreating web 1.0 with todays spyware browsers requires a tor setup.

vmception 5y ago

yes web 1.0 had potential but the consolidation of platforms and their protocols made it untenable ISPs can deplatform ICANN and ENOM can deplatform Nations can force them to deplatform and effectively censor your web 1.0 server can be unreachable or unable to serve data a TOR onion service is subject to the same distributed denial of service Reading from a blockchain is not, and the costs for writing to it are one-off and low

arpa 5y ago
somebody will still have to store and serve the blockchain, right? So same problems...
dmitriid 5y ago
> yes web 1.0 had potential but the consolidation of platforms and their protocols made it untenable Unlike web3, where they platforms chose to write custom metadata to the blockchain and interpret as they so chose... Oh wait.
- vmception 5y ago
  lol. I can appreciate that take. there likely will be a day where there is nobody left who knows how to use dominant blockchains and rely on a few company controlled platforms to do everything for them, so there is nobody left to communicate with when using the public utilities in the most raw form. For now, that's not the case and education is expanding. Not as fast as the uneducated users of blockchains, but some of them dive deeper too.
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > For now, that's not the case Even now this is the case. It's a bit more spread because many people jump on the bandwagon and try to maximize their scams^W profits. But then you get news like "Peter Molyneux releasing next game on Gala Games platform", and this is exactly what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter how many users and devs you "educate". If Platform X doesn't recognize Platform Y's metadata, no amount of blockchain will help you.