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> some percentage of the userbase will always run aggressive ad blockers and be impossible to effectvely monetize Can’t block ads when they’re disguised as use

by briga 5y ago

> some percentage of the userbase will always run aggressive ad blockers and be impossible to effectvely monetize Can’t block ads when they’re disguised as user content. Viral marketers have had a heyday hawking their products on Reddit

GhettoComputers 5y ago
My app does it for me. :) But yes old.reddit.com/r/hailcorporate posts can’t be blocked.
- 01100011 5y ago
  Your app detects astroturfing?
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    > > some percentage of the userbase will always run aggressive ad blockers and be impossible to effectvely monetize No, ad blocking
Ilverin 5y ago
But do those marketers pay reddit?
- nosianu 5y ago
  Who knows what's going on behind the scenes? Example: Last time I read /r/funny for a period I noticed a wave of "look at what funny thing I did with these Coke bottles" posts that were so obviously part of a marketing campaign that surely reddit admins noticed it too. I don't think they would allow that if they weren't in on it. In that case they may have even helped with the upvotes so no external service where you can easily buy votes (easily found through Google, [1]) would have been needed. Some examples for upvote services: - https://www.soar.sh/service/buy-reddit-upvotes/ https://www.soar.sh/service/buy-reddit-upvotes/ - https://boostupvotes.com/ https://boostupvotes.com/ - https://reddit-marketing.pro/ https://reddit-marketing.pro/ (top three search results when I googled "buy reddit votes") Surely, given how visible such services are, monetizing reddit buy selling upvotes would be one of the first things anyone wanting to monetize reddit comes up with. The only difference to the 3rd party vote sellers is that they will have to hide it better and/or find justifications because the company itself doing it causes a bit more outrage. I also don't think the more niche sub reddits will be (are?) safe. Anyone who wants to sell something more specialized has a target audience much better than anything Facebook can create by selecting the right subreddit, because the audience is self-selecting. Same as for the Coke campaign, since it's hard too hide what's going on from the admins they could stop much of that, so paying reddit to have your posts even boosted by them is safest for any marketer.
  - a_bonobo 5y ago
    There's actually a good incentive for moderators to be in on this, as they aren't paid by reddit for their (in sometimes massive) unpaid labour. If a marketing company comes along and says, 'hey, you've done this so long, don't you think you should deserve some money? just let us run our campaign on your subreddit and we'll pay you!' quite a few moderators would agree. Admins might not notice.
    - nosianu 5y ago
      > Admins might not notice. They might not have noticed a few isolated cases, but they sure would have noticed the phenomenon as such by now. The company would have an even bigger incentive now to try to get such monetization for themselves instead of letting others make the money with their site.
- Levitz 5y ago
  Admins? Don't know. Some moderators? I have no doubt.
14 5y ago
I recently noticed the same posts popping up and they contained the exact same comments but instead of the comment saying 1month old it would say like 3 hours. I asked and some suggested it is karma farmers and they use the same posts and same comments that generated a lot of likes in the past to get karma and once they have a lot of karma their posts are more likely to hit the front page. I wish I could block posts from reappearing but they just slap a new title and don’t show a proper thumbnail and trick users to watch it again.
- Quekid5 5y ago
  Yup. Karma farming bots are absolutely rampant.
perth 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_marketing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_marketing
colinmhayes 5y ago
Reddit is being paid by these ads.

by briga 5y ago

GhettoComputers 5y ago

My app does it for me. :) But yes old.reddit.com/r/hailcorporate posts can’t be blocked.

01100011 5y ago
Your app detects astroturfing?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  > > some percentage of the userbase will always run aggressive ad blockers and be impossible to effectvely monetize No, ad blocking

Ilverin 5y ago

But do those marketers pay reddit?

nosianu 5y ago
Who knows what's going on behind the scenes? Example: Last time I read /r/funny for a period I noticed a wave of "look at what funny thing I did with these Coke bottles" posts that were so obviously part of a marketing campaign that surely reddit admins noticed it too. I don't think they would allow that if they weren't in on it. In that case they may have even helped with the upvotes so no external service where you can easily buy votes (easily found through Google, [1]) would have been needed. Some examples for upvote services: - https://www.soar.sh/service/buy-reddit-upvotes/ https://www.soar.sh/service/buy-reddit-upvotes/ - https://boostupvotes.com/ https://boostupvotes.com/ - https://reddit-marketing.pro/ https://reddit-marketing.pro/ (top three search results when I googled "buy reddit votes") Surely, given how visible such services are, monetizing reddit buy selling upvotes would be one of the first things anyone wanting to monetize reddit comes up with. The only difference to the 3rd party vote sellers is that they will have to hide it better and/or find justifications because the company itself doing it causes a bit more outrage. I also don't think the more niche sub reddits will be (are?) safe. Anyone who wants to sell something more specialized has a target audience much better than anything Facebook can create by selecting the right subreddit, because the audience is self-selecting. Same as for the Coke campaign, since it's hard too hide what's going on from the admins they could stop much of that, so paying reddit to have your posts even boosted by them is safest for any marketer.
- a_bonobo 5y ago
  There's actually a good incentive for moderators to be in on this, as they aren't paid by reddit for their (in sometimes massive) unpaid labour. If a marketing company comes along and says, 'hey, you've done this so long, don't you think you should deserve some money? just let us run our campaign on your subreddit and we'll pay you!' quite a few moderators would agree. Admins might not notice.
  - nosianu 5y ago
    > Admins might not notice. They might not have noticed a few isolated cases, but they sure would have noticed the phenomenon as such by now. The company would have an even bigger incentive now to try to get such monetization for themselves instead of letting others make the money with their site.
Levitz 5y ago
Admins? Don't know. Some moderators? I have no doubt.

14 5y ago

I recently noticed the same posts popping up and they contained the exact same comments but instead of the comment saying 1month old it would say like 3 hours. I asked and some suggested it is karma farmers and they use the same posts and same comments that generated a lot of likes in the past to get karma and once they have a lot of karma their posts are more likely to hit the front page. I wish I could block posts from reappearing but they just slap a new title and don’t show a proper thumbnail and trick users to watch it again.

Quekid5 5y ago
Yup. Karma farming bots are absolutely rampant.

perth 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_marketing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_marketing

colinmhayes 5y ago

Reddit is being paid by these ads.