> I don’t even want to mention the crap cake that is KaiOS... Oh please do, its absolutely horrid. How are they even keeping up with Firefox security updates?

> I don’t even want to mention the crap cake that is KaiOS... Oh please do, its absolutely horrid. How are they even keeping up with Firefox security updates? The only conclusion I could come to, when investigating this, was that they aren't, and when I asked the company in a comment on their public blog how they were handling it they deleted my comment. I was hoping Lightphone would be a strong contender for a non-smartphone but the reviews so far have been mixed and there seems to be a few serious issues (e.g. battery life), also there's no 2FA which honestly is one of the main things I use my phone for these days (not everything supports hardware 2FA)