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Yeah, it’s pretty disappointing given their name. More like ClosedAI am I rite guyz

by TulliusCicero 5y ago

manojlds 5y ago
Is it even AI?
- TulliusCicero 5y ago
  Yes, unless you’re one of those people who considers anything less than human-level AI to not count.
  - edna314 5y ago
    What if it is not artificial and only human level ai in a sense that it's run by mechanical Turks which answer the prompts ?
    - scotty79 5y ago
      It is most definitely not mechanical Turks. I played with it for a while.
    - samhw 5y ago
      Sounds a bit like a Chinese room: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room > Suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in constructing a computer that behaves as if it understands Chinese. It takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose, says Searle, that this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. > Searle then supposes that he is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient papers, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Searle could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, says Searle, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
- stavros 5y ago
  Well, it nearly passes the Turing test in my subjective evaluations, so make of that what you will.
lonk 5y ago
Also centralized
schleck8 5y ago
It also makes sense https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2020/10/28/medical-chatbot-openai-gpt3-patient-kill-themselves/ https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2020/10/28/medical-c...
- badestrand 5y ago
  GPT-3 is just a tool. If a product that uses it messes up you can hardly blame it on the tool but rather on that product or the company developing it (here Nabla).
  - s3tz 5y ago
    Not exactly, it's a service with unpredictable output. This isn't like a knife where you know what will happen depending on how you use it.
    - egeozcan 5y ago
      Chatting with random people on the internet is much more unpredictable. Try writing on 4chan that you are depressed and gasp in horror how horrible humans can be when anonymous. Okay maybe it is indeed very predictable what would happen on 4chan, but I hope you get my point. Here the AI is just a tool, we shouldn't categorize them as some "special" software.
      - bsjks 5y ago
        If you ask in certain boards and make an effort to write your post detailing what’s going on, you will only receive helpful responses.
        egeozcan 5y ago
        Those boards have better moderation, something you need regardless of AI, which is my point. AI doesn't add more danger to the situation, you just need to moderate as usual. If you are using some computer program to add more content to your web site, you will just have more content to moderate. News aggregators do have this problem for example, as sometimes automated crawlers post sensitive content and that needs to be marked & deleted before being published. Saying, "oh but our algorithm can cause depression, so we moderate the access to it" doesn't make sense, as any content can cause it and needs to be moderated. That's why content moderation is one of the hardest problems of this age. You use computers to do it? Computers develop biases. Humans? Same! It's very hard to scale and is a problem only remotely related to AI-generated content because AI generating content increases the input to your moderation system. Now I hope it is clear what I'm trying to say :)
bottled_poe 5y ago
You’re not wrong. It’s intentionally deceptive and exploitation of open source culture by naming it this way.
- gfxgirl 5y ago
  OpenGL, OpenCL, OpenVG, OpenXR, none of them are open source . Seems like that's what they were going for to me
  - gnomewascool 5y ago
    Aren't these all standards and hence not directly comparable to software (so the label of "open source" can't really apply)? In addition, aren't they all open and royalty-free — i.e. the closest equivalent to open source? In contrast, OpenAI does directly produce software. There are arguments to be made that AI shouldn't be open, but the name of the company is misleading.
  - josefx 5y ago
    You can take the OpenGL spec. and write an application or your own implementation based on it, nobody is going to stop you, check your project for prohibited language or terminate your OpenGL license for inappropriate use.
wayeq 5y ago
got 'em

Yeah, it’s pretty disappointing given their name. More like ClosedAI am I rite guyz

manojlds 5y ago

Is it even AI?

TulliusCicero 5y ago
Yes, unless you’re one of those people who considers anything less than human-level AI to not count.
- edna314 5y ago
  What if it is not artificial and only human level ai in a sense that it's run by mechanical Turks which answer the prompts ?
  - scotty79 5y ago
    It is most definitely not mechanical Turks. I played with it for a while.
  - samhw 5y ago
    Sounds a bit like a Chinese room: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room > Suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in constructing a computer that behaves as if it understands Chinese. It takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose, says Searle, that this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. > Searle then supposes that he is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient papers, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Searle could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, says Searle, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
stavros 5y ago
Well, it nearly passes the Turing test in my subjective evaluations, so make of that what you will.

lonk 5y ago

Also centralized

schleck8 5y ago

It also makes sense https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2020/10/28/medical-chatbot-openai-gpt3-patient-kill-themselves/ https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2020/10/28/medical-c...

badestrand 5y ago
GPT-3 is just a tool. If a product that uses it messes up you can hardly blame it on the tool but rather on that product or the company developing it (here Nabla).
- s3tz 5y ago
  Not exactly, it's a service with unpredictable output. This isn't like a knife where you know what will happen depending on how you use it.
  - egeozcan 5y ago
    Chatting with random people on the internet is much more unpredictable. Try writing on 4chan that you are depressed and gasp in horror how horrible humans can be when anonymous. Okay maybe it is indeed very predictable what would happen on 4chan, but I hope you get my point. Here the AI is just a tool, we shouldn't categorize them as some "special" software.
    - bsjks 5y ago
      If you ask in certain boards and make an effort to write your post detailing what’s going on, you will only receive helpful responses.
      - egeozcan 5y ago
        Those boards have better moderation, something you need regardless of AI, which is my point. AI doesn't add more danger to the situation, you just need to moderate as usual. If you are using some computer program to add more content to your web site, you will just have more content to moderate. News aggregators do have this problem for example, as sometimes automated crawlers post sensitive content and that needs to be marked & deleted before being published. Saying, "oh but our algorithm can cause depression, so we moderate the access to it" doesn't make sense, as any content can cause it and needs to be moderated. That's why content moderation is one of the hardest problems of this age. You use computers to do it? Computers develop biases. Humans? Same! It's very hard to scale and is a problem only remotely related to AI-generated content because AI generating content increases the input to your moderation system. Now I hope it is clear what I'm trying to say :)

bottled_poe 5y ago

You’re not wrong. It’s intentionally deceptive and exploitation of open source culture by naming it this way.

gfxgirl 5y ago
OpenGL, OpenCL, OpenVG, OpenXR, none of them are open source . Seems like that's what they were going for to me
- gnomewascool 5y ago
  Aren't these all standards and hence not directly comparable to software (so the label of "open source" can't really apply)? In addition, aren't they all open and royalty-free — i.e. the closest equivalent to open source? In contrast, OpenAI does directly produce software. There are arguments to be made that AI shouldn't be open, but the name of the company is misleading.
- josefx 5y ago
  You can take the OpenGL spec. and write an application or your own implementation based on it, nobody is going to stop you, check your project for prohibited language or terminate your OpenGL license for inappropriate use.

wayeq 5y ago

got 'em