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Mandatory guideline quote: > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. The actual quot

by belval 5y ago

Mandatory guideline quote: > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. The actual quote has a bunch of links that I worth looking at. People were echo'ing your comment 7 years ago.

systemvoltage 5y ago
I’ve been here for a while. Maybe we can break the rule in a thread about Reddit going for an IPO? :-) Also, I am not saying HN is turning into Reddit. We are just degrading.
- belval 5y ago
  FWIW, I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't comment on it. Just that in HN's "lore" saying that it's turning into reddit is a common theme. As to your comment itself, I don't think HN is degrading that fast? The low-quality "meme" responses usually get downvoted and while polarization is alive and well, most of it leads to interesting arguments so it's not necessarily a bad thing. I've only been here for 2-3 years though so maybe it was different before.
  - flanbiscuit 5y ago
    I've been here 8+ years and I don't feel like it has changed much. It probably has in some way that hasn't been very noticeable to me. Just my personal observations.
    - systemvoltage 5y ago
      These things are subjective but I find old HN substantially and irrefutably different (and better) for the reasons I said earlier. It is so obvious to me. I wonder why so many people disagree. Something wrong with me? I feel pretty strong about this. Usually, if I’m not convinced, I wouldn’t put it in such strong terms.
      - joconde 5y ago
        Yeah, I’ve been here a few months only and there is a very different attitude than on better-known websites like Reddit. HN is the only forum I’ve seen where anyone who argues in obviously bad faith will get downvoted to invisibility, and most well-made arguments get upvoted, no matter which side they’re on. A few years ago, trying to have the same conversations on reddit, everything degraded into personal attacks eventually.
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- philipkglass 5y ago
  I migrated here in 2016 a couple of months before the American presidential election because the comments on Ars Technica kept derailing into American politics or culture war, even when the article was about science or technology. The problem seems to have followed me. I recognize your name as one of the numerous people using HN for discussing American politics and culture war.

by belval 5y ago

systemvoltage 5y ago

I’ve been here for a while. Maybe we can break the rule in a thread about Reddit going for an IPO? :-) Also, I am not saying HN is turning into Reddit. We are just degrading.

belval 5y ago
FWIW, I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't comment on it. Just that in HN's "lore" saying that it's turning into reddit is a common theme. As to your comment itself, I don't think HN is degrading that fast? The low-quality "meme" responses usually get downvoted and while polarization is alive and well, most of it leads to interesting arguments so it's not necessarily a bad thing. I've only been here for 2-3 years though so maybe it was different before.
- flanbiscuit 5y ago
  I've been here 8+ years and I don't feel like it has changed much. It probably has in some way that hasn't been very noticeable to me. Just my personal observations.
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    These things are subjective but I find old HN substantially and irrefutably different (and better) for the reasons I said earlier. It is so obvious to me. I wonder why so many people disagree. Something wrong with me? I feel pretty strong about this. Usually, if I’m not convinced, I wouldn’t put it in such strong terms.
    - joconde 5y ago
      Yeah, I’ve been here a few months only and there is a very different attitude than on better-known websites like Reddit. HN is the only forum I’ve seen where anyone who argues in obviously bad faith will get downvoted to invisibility, and most well-made arguments get upvoted, no matter which side they’re on. A few years ago, trying to have the same conversations on reddit, everything degraded into personal attacks eventually.
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philipkglass 5y ago
I migrated here in 2016 a couple of months before the American presidential election because the comments on Ars Technica kept derailing into American politics or culture war, even when the article was about science or technology. The problem seems to have followed me. I recognize your name as one of the numerous people using HN for discussing American politics and culture war.