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How soon until "the cloud" and centralized services "vaporize" and on-premise becomes all the rage? The cycle will continue. What was old will become new again

by jrs235 5y ago

How soon until "the cloud" and centralized services "vaporize" and on-premise becomes all the rage? The cycle will continue. What was old will become new again.

harpratap 5y ago
The main idea with Google creating K8s was to commoditize it's complement. Now they are pushing for Anthos with is basically GCP with BYOD on-prem (or other vendor) hardware. So what you will see is people using Hetzner like services with cloud software provided by these companies. It is kind of already happening with Teleco world. Companies like Dish and Vodafone partner with AWS & GCP. These telecos buy their own OpenRAN hardware from Nokia or Ericsson and manage it using AWS, GCP, Azure software.
- shubb 5y ago
  Azure has a lot of features around this model.For instance, you can put a kind of azure agent on your on prem servers and then provision azure virtual machines and managed databases onto them, or cloud active directory for on-prem desktops. I hadn't thought of them in the context of "hire cheaper non-cloud servers for your baseline load and storage".
barbazoo 5y ago
Too many organizations I can think of that wouldn't exist without cloud services so I don't think what you said will happen.
stevejb 5y ago
Same as when horse and buggies will come back in response to a disruption of the gasoline supply chain.
paradite 5y ago
One of my favourite quotes is from "Romance of the Three Kingdoms". It notes an observation that I find generally applicable to many things in life: "Those long divided shall be united; those long united shall be divided: such is the way of the universe." Original quote in Chinese: ＂话说天下大势，分久必合，合久必分。＂
- Datagenerator 5y ago
  Thanks for sharing this wonderful quote.
- throwaway1777 5y ago
  Or as commonly said everything is either bundling or unbundling.
- limoce 5y ago
  The dynasty of Han collapsed and was divided into three kingdoms. After many years of war, one of them finally defeats the other two and it becomes united. This pattern is replayed again and again in the history, and possibly in the future.
- muzani 5y ago
  Related Dilbert: https://blogs.conceptfirst.com/files/dilbert_central.jpg https://blogs.conceptfirst.com/files/dilbert_central.jpg
qwertyuiop_ 5y ago
Just like “server side rendering”, the kids didn’t know we started with server side rendering.

by jrs235 5y ago

How soon until "the cloud" and centralized services "vaporize" and on-premise becomes all the rage? The cycle will continue. What was old will become new again.

harpratap 5y ago

The main idea with Google creating K8s was to commoditize it's complement. Now they are pushing for Anthos with is basically GCP with BYOD on-prem (or other vendor) hardware. So what you will see is people using Hetzner like services with cloud software provided by these companies. It is kind of already happening with Teleco world. Companies like Dish and Vodafone partner with AWS & GCP. These telecos buy their own OpenRAN hardware from Nokia or Ericsson and manage it using AWS, GCP, Azure software.

shubb 5y ago
Azure has a lot of features around this model.For instance, you can put a kind of azure agent on your on prem servers and then provision azure virtual machines and managed databases onto them, or cloud active directory for on-prem desktops. I hadn't thought of them in the context of "hire cheaper non-cloud servers for your baseline load and storage".

barbazoo 5y ago

Too many organizations I can think of that wouldn't exist without cloud services so I don't think what you said will happen.

stevejb 5y ago

Same as when horse and buggies will come back in response to a disruption of the gasoline supply chain.

paradite 5y ago

One of my favourite quotes is from "Romance of the Three Kingdoms". It notes an observation that I find generally applicable to many things in life: "Those long divided shall be united; those long united shall be divided: such is the way of the universe." Original quote in Chinese: ＂话说天下大势，分久必合，合久必分。＂

Datagenerator 5y ago
Thanks for sharing this wonderful quote.
throwaway1777 5y ago
Or as commonly said everything is either bundling or unbundling.
limoce 5y ago
The dynasty of Han collapsed and was divided into three kingdoms. After many years of war, one of them finally defeats the other two and it becomes united. This pattern is replayed again and again in the history, and possibly in the future.
muzani 5y ago
Related Dilbert: https://blogs.conceptfirst.com/files/dilbert_central.jpg https://blogs.conceptfirst.com/files/dilbert_central.jpg

qwertyuiop_ 5y ago

Just like “server side rendering”, the kids didn’t know we started with server side rendering.