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My parents have worked extensively on a Soviet bug for bug clone of this (with an incomplete sed job of replacing references to ATT UNIX) running on an an EVM/E

by strlen 5y ago

My parents have worked extensively on a Soviet bug for bug clone of this (with an incomplete sed job of replacing references to ATT UNIX) running on an an EVM/ES 370 (a laboriously built bug for bug clone of the IBM 370.) The whole setup would even play “Yankee Doodle Dandy” when it crashed. This was my parents first exposure to UNIX: they have used indigenous machines (Minsk series, an early RISC-ish design), as well as PDPs but the PDPs they used did not run any UNIX variant (likely due to lack of MMU or sufficient core.) Dear lazyweb, has anyone been able to get this going on the Herculus emulator? I am giving my father (if you read this site and know him, please dont disclose) a surface tablet for New Years (per russian custom of giving gifts on secular holidays), would be neat to install this inside Hercules (or other emulator), if needed under WSL2 (which runs on even the cheapest surface.)

rbanffy 5y ago
> Dear lazyweb, has anyone been able to get this going on the Herculus emulator? I don’t think it’d be easy to obtain tape images for installing it or disk images to run it. This was licensed software IBM really dislikes when someone runs it without a license. It also wasn’t that popular back in the day.
- strlen 5y ago
  interesting: it did appear pretty popular behind the iron curtain (as did e.g., PL/I, home-PC sized PDP11s, and other seemingly well designed but less commercially successful western technologies.)
  - keeglin 5y ago
    https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/IBM/370/ https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/IBM/370/ This might be it.
    - rbanffy 5y ago
      It's not AIX/370 though. You can get a modern Unix running under Hercules pretending to be a more modern mainframe if you want it though. Red Hat, SUSE and Canonical have versions for it, as well as FreeBSD and NetBSD, although I don't think there is anyone using those two seriously.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Maybe something very similar, [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl_UTS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl_UTS [2] https://github.com/moshix/UTS https://github.com/moshix/UTS which runs under [3] http://vm370.org/ http://vm370.org/ as shown in these two videos: [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56qLxG-sUM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56qLxG-sUM [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUHwkbVTJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUHwkbVTJg I didn't try it by myself, so far. Though I'm very tempted. Maybe this could work for you, or rather your father.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Thinking about it, since it will be running under Windows, maybe this would be a nice touch: [6] https://ollydbg.de/Jason/index.htm https://ollydbg.de/Jason/index.htm

by strlen 5y ago

rbanffy 5y ago

> Dear lazyweb, has anyone been able to get this going on the Herculus emulator? I don’t think it’d be easy to obtain tape images for installing it or disk images to run it. This was licensed software IBM really dislikes when someone runs it without a license. It also wasn’t that popular back in the day.

strlen 5y ago
interesting: it did appear pretty popular behind the iron curtain (as did e.g., PL/I, home-PC sized PDP11s, and other seemingly well designed but less commercially successful western technologies.)
- keeglin 5y ago
  https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/IBM/370/ https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/IBM/370/ This might be it.
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    It's not AIX/370 though. You can get a modern Unix running under Hercules pretending to be a more modern mainframe if you want it though. Red Hat, SUSE and Canonical have versions for it, as well as FreeBSD and NetBSD, although I don't think there is anyone using those two seriously.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago

Maybe something very similar, [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl_UTS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl_UTS [2] https://github.com/moshix/UTS https://github.com/moshix/UTS which runs under [3] http://vm370.org/ http://vm370.org/ as shown in these two videos: [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56qLxG-sUM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56qLxG-sUM [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUHwkbVTJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUHwkbVTJg I didn't try it by myself, so far. Though I'm very tempted. Maybe this could work for you, or rather your father.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Thinking about it, since it will be running under Windows, maybe this would be a nice touch: [6] https://ollydbg.de/Jason/index.htm https://ollydbg.de/Jason/index.htm