Somewhat disturbing content following! > The whole reason these systems are proposed is because "detective work" is ineffective and the harm is ongoing. In Ge

Somewhat disturbing content following! > The whole reason these systems are proposed is because "detective work" is ineffective and the harm is ongoing. In Germany, there recently was a news story about two journalists infiltrating and effectively shutting down an insanely large darknet forum for child abuse material. That story exploded, because evidently, law enforcement could have done a lot better, as all the journalists did was crawling for webhoster-links and reporting the content there - the hosters immediately followed through - terabytes of abuse were deleted. The admins of the forum even spoke with the journalists and told them, literally no one cared before and the whole userbase was caught in surprise. Not-so-much-fun facts: IIRC that site had millions of accounts registered; apparently at least 1% of men are attracted to children; it's been mostly non-commercial, user-made abuse material - strongly motivated by that community's demand. The journalists concluded: It's not enough to persecute individuals and gather evidence. It is absolutely imperative to disrupt those communities, too, as those sick people not just consume abuse material, they very much actively promote the abuse itself in their interactions. Now, it's not single hit, lasting solution, but requires constant effort. However terabytes of abuse material are not moved in an instant, and they are surely not delivered via Tor to literally millions of people. Apparently it takes about two people, who know Python, to take down a platform like that. (The argument of destroying evidence is moot, as you can easily do both, within law enforcement capabilities.) German podcast, interview with one of the journalists; articles in shownotes: https://lagedernation.org/podcast/ldn269-bka-laesst-bilder-von-kindesmissbrauch-im-netz-corona-lage-mit-omikron-bverfg-zu-bundesnotbremse-neues-telekommunikationsgesetz/#shownotes https://lagedernation.org/podcast/ldn269-bka-laesst-bilder-v... TL;DR: Before everyone's privacy and democratic distribution of power are getting compromised, ... maybe lets make sure law enforcement is actually doing their job first.