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I doubt this will get done on Xorg any time soon, there is very little incentive for anyone to do it when it's already working much better on Wayland. The probl

I doubt this will get done on Xorg any time soon, there is very little incentive for anyone to do it when it's already working much better on Wayland. The problem is in finding someone who will do it, it's not really a problem to figure out how it could be done because we already know that: just copy the Wayland API back into X. A good way to start would probably be to get scaling working in XWayland applications and then backport from there; amazingly, we're finally at the point where Xorg is playing catch up to Wayland in terms of features. I can't understate how huge that achievement is for the Linux display stack.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
At this rate is it possible that x.org will just absorb the benefits of wayland while having graphical issues and less safety?
- shatteredgate 5y ago
  I don't think so, the X.org server would likely have to be rewritten entirely to get some of the improvements of Wayland. And at that point you might as well use Wayland. People have written alternate X servers before but I've never seen one that was totally feature compatible with X.org.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    I am suggesting that wayland may not reach critical mass because of backporting these features, and wayland lacking a lot of functionality would prevent me from using it, until its reach partiality or enough functionality. I had mostly a great time with it on GNOME and a tablet interface, but I missed widgets and some functionalities.
    - shatteredgate 5y ago
      In terms of developer velocity I think it has already reached critical mass. I can't comment on any particular missing features in GNOME, to me it is probably more likely that a GNOME contributor is working on getting those features ported over to Wayland than somebody working on backporting things to X.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        That's great, I'll switch when its not a skeletonized version of the functionality I use now, I hope there is an easy way to import global hotkeys in my current programs, and have widgets or GUI support. I tried using ctrl and up as a hotkey in the compositor for instance and it never worked in dbus when I tried last week. I just mentioned GNOME because I actually really dislike it, and was forced to use it for good tablet support with wayland, they broke those plugins I used.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

At this rate is it possible that x.org will just absorb the benefits of wayland while having graphical issues and less safety?

shatteredgate 5y ago
I don't think so, the X.org server would likely have to be rewritten entirely to get some of the improvements of Wayland. And at that point you might as well use Wayland. People have written alternate X servers before but I've never seen one that was totally feature compatible with X.org.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  I am suggesting that wayland may not reach critical mass because of backporting these features, and wayland lacking a lot of functionality would prevent me from using it, until its reach partiality or enough functionality. I had mostly a great time with it on GNOME and a tablet interface, but I missed widgets and some functionalities.
  - shatteredgate 5y ago
    In terms of developer velocity I think it has already reached critical mass. I can't comment on any particular missing features in GNOME, to me it is probably more likely that a GNOME contributor is working on getting those features ported over to Wayland than somebody working on backporting things to X.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      That's great, I'll switch when its not a skeletonized version of the functionality I use now, I hope there is an easy way to import global hotkeys in my current programs, and have widgets or GUI support. I tried using ctrl and up as a hotkey in the compositor for instance and it never worked in dbus when I tried last week. I just mentioned GNOME because I actually really dislike it, and was forced to use it for good tablet support with wayland, they broke those plugins I used.