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Palestinian Arabs are exactly who I'm describing in the previous examples. They are free to become Israeli citizens at any time and those are the positions they

Palestinian Arabs are exactly who I'm describing in the previous examples. They are free to become Israeli citizens at any time and those are the positions they end up in when they do. Palestine has rejected every two state solution proposed for the last half century. You're regurgitating ignorant nonsense. The ruling parties and majority population of Palestine are VOCALLY genocidal when it comes to the Jews, but you'd rather ignore that and accuse Israel of subversively carrying out a genocide against people it has in its highest levels of government. Then you have the audacity to accuse ME of bad faith. How many Jews are in Palestinian leadership positions? I couldn't care less what Noam Chomsky says or thinks on this subject, he's one of the worst ultracrepidarian clowns in contemporary history.

tsimionescu 5y ago
And yet, despite this enlightened love of Israel for its Palestinian citizens, Israel is one of the developed nations of the world, while Palestine (the Gaza Strip and West Bank) live in squalor, are blockaded with not even the Red Cross being allowed to freely bring medicine in, and have to endure planned bombardments from Israel whenever a terrorist attack happens, all while their land is taken away by colonists flying the Israeli flag. How exactly do you square this circle? > Palestine has rejected every two state solution proposed for the last half century. This is twisting history. UN resolutions for a two-state solution have always been approved by Palestine, with the USA being the veto against them. The idea of recognizing the state of Israel has been accepted by Palestinian leadership since the 1970s. But, the specific proposals that have usually been on the table have been almost universally laughable: taking away even more of Palestinian territory, limited access to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, limited access between the two halves of the Palestinian state and many other issues. Not to mention, almost all of these negotiations were "arbitrated" by Israel's single biggest ally in the world, the USA. This would be as if you'd expect peace talks between Ukraine and the Donetsk separatists arbitrated by Russia to go well. > They are free to become Israeli citizens at any time and those are the positions they end up in when they do. And looking a little bit into this, it's amazing you can claim this, as the truth is precisely the opposite. 90% of the Arabic population of Palestine before the war did not qualify to become Israeli citizens. Now, not only do they not have any special right to become Israeli citizens, they don't even have the right to enter the country, even if they have a spouse or property there, unless they meet some other conditions. By contrast, any person of Jewish decent or that converts to Judaism has the right to become a citizen of Israel with minimal other conditions. They will also likely receive property from the JNF if they wish to settle in Israel.
- defaultprimate 5y ago
  You're not just ignorant, you're willfully lying. None of the things in your last post are true. The PA and Hamas have repeatedly rejected two state solutions, refuse to recognize Israel, and openly call for genocide. You failed to answer my question too. This discussion over

tsimionescu 5y ago

And yet, despite this enlightened love of Israel for its Palestinian citizens, Israel is one of the developed nations of the world, while Palestine (the Gaza Strip and West Bank) live in squalor, are blockaded with not even the Red Cross being allowed to freely bring medicine in, and have to endure planned bombardments from Israel whenever a terrorist attack happens, all while their land is taken away by colonists flying the Israeli flag. How exactly do you square this circle? > Palestine has rejected every two state solution proposed for the last half century. This is twisting history. UN resolutions for a two-state solution have always been approved by Palestine, with the USA being the veto against them. The idea of recognizing the state of Israel has been accepted by Palestinian leadership since the 1970s. But, the specific proposals that have usually been on the table have been almost universally laughable: taking away even more of Palestinian territory, limited access to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, limited access between the two halves of the Palestinian state and many other issues. Not to mention, almost all of these negotiations were "arbitrated" by Israel's single biggest ally in the world, the USA. This would be as if you'd expect peace talks between Ukraine and the Donetsk separatists arbitrated by Russia to go well. > They are free to become Israeli citizens at any time and those are the positions they end up in when they do. And looking a little bit into this, it's amazing you can claim this, as the truth is precisely the opposite. 90% of the Arabic population of Palestine before the war did not qualify to become Israeli citizens. Now, not only do they not have any special right to become Israeli citizens, they don't even have the right to enter the country, even if they have a spouse or property there, unless they meet some other conditions. By contrast, any person of Jewish decent or that converts to Judaism has the right to become a citizen of Israel with minimal other conditions. They will also likely receive property from the JNF if they wish to settle in Israel.

defaultprimate 5y ago
You're not just ignorant, you're willfully lying. None of the things in your last post are true. The PA and Hamas have repeatedly rejected two state solutions, refuse to recognize Israel, and openly call for genocide. You failed to answer my question too. This discussion over