> GNU tools are much more widely used on boxes humans interact with than BSD/busybox. You don't see everyone trying to figure out how to install all of the suck

> GNU tools are much more widely used on boxes humans interact with than BSD/busybox. You don't see everyone trying to figure out how to install all of the suckless tools immediately after installing linux, etc. Or perhaps those BSDers, suckless tool users, etc get setup and quietly just get to work. I feel that’s plausible. I think you’re right re: server/desktop split, which decades ago might have been hard to tell apart. Is desktop-computing and some loud but ignorant (of Unix) majority directing the future of Unix down the garden path or are the traditionalists out of touch and just yelling at clouds and kids to stay off their lawn? I fall into the traditionalist camp - I think the Unix that got us here is Good and to know it is to love it. I think pushing back against complexity is (and has been for a long time) an additional challenge for BSD/Linux, besides it’s primary role of being a great compute environment. The BSDs have done marvellously here. > I mean the empirical evidence alone seems point at the Unix Philosophy not actually being popular in practice. I’m worried this is polling 100 people off the street about how they care for their kitchen knives and trying to tie that back to Michelin Star restaurant kitchens. I don’t know…