> it's not true that people are infectious just because they've been vaccinated Does anyone believe this(???). This is just crazy. I figured that the purpose o

> it's not true that people are infectious just because they've been vaccinated Does anyone believe this(???). This is just crazy. I figured that the purpose of a quote like > people who have received the vaccine can spread or shed the virus is to say something like, "The virus still spreads in a vaccinated population." "Therefore, getting vaccinated, while it helps you, doesn't help others, and doesn't help 'end the pandemic' sooner. I.e., it doesn't lead to (vaccine-based) herd immunity." "Therefore, you have no reason to be mad at your neighbors who refuse to get vaccinated." I don't know if all that's actually true -- I assume that vaccinated people are at least somewhat less likely to spread COVID (nothing is ever a sure thing) -- but it's at least not crazy. Have I been too charitable? I don't know what to think these days. Words and phrases (e.g. "herd immunity") seem to just be trigger-words. I sometimes can't even detect logical thought. So it seems entirely possible that people are spreading these even more crazy ideas. But I'd thought the argument was for something more plausible.