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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_facial_tumour_disease https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_facial_tumour_disease You can't infect anyone yet, at least

stavros 5y ago
Sure you can, HPV is infectious and causes cervical cancer.
- locallost 5y ago
  But that's a virus that can cause cancer. You could theoretically get a cancer vaccine and still transmit HPV if you have it.
  - throwawayboise 5y ago
    You can transmit it to those you have sex with. That's a pretty narrow means of transmission, and one that is already a vector for a variety of other diseases.
  - stavros 5y ago
    Hmm, what do you mean? Vaccines generally protect you from the disease more than they protect unvaccinated others from you transmitting it.
    - locallost 5y ago
      That you still can't infect someone with cancer. But it's not so important.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  It can* cause cancer. Some estimate up to 99% of cervical cancer cases are caused by HPV, but having HPV causes has a lifetime cancer risk of 0.6%.
  - mike00632 5y ago
    The point is that we currently have a vaccine that eradicates those types of cancers but we have very low numbers of people willing to take the vaccine because of cultural hesitancy
    - s1artibartfast 5y ago
      I would quibble with your definition of "very low", given that the number is >50% in the US. I agree we have a preventative treatment for a cancer and not everyone takes it. What conclusions do you draw from this point as it relates to this thread (or in general)? Personally, I'm surprised that uptake is so fast for a relatively new and elective treatment. Even moreso when considering that it addresses a rare disease that effects people many decades later.
      - mike00632 5y ago
        Do you have a source for that? Because my understanding is that even in young people (the original CDC target for the vaccine), the vaccination rate is under 50% in the US. https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/partners/outreach-hcp/hpv-coverage.html#:~:text=In%202017%2C%20roughly%20half%20(49,to%20start%20the%20vaccine%20series https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/partners/outreach-hcp/hpv-coverage.h....
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Here is a more recent link from the CDC that puts it at 75% started and 58% complete for adolescents.[1] This isn't surprising because the CDC shows adoption going up a few percent per year. This year over year increase is more or less what you would expect given we are still in the adoption phase of this new medicine.[2] Eventually this increase will stall out with some people refusing to use it, but we aren't there yet. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db354.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db354.htm

stavros 5y ago

Sure you can, HPV is infectious and causes cervical cancer.

locallost 5y ago
But that's a virus that can cause cancer. You could theoretically get a cancer vaccine and still transmit HPV if you have it.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  You can transmit it to those you have sex with. That's a pretty narrow means of transmission, and one that is already a vector for a variety of other diseases.
- stavros 5y ago
  Hmm, what do you mean? Vaccines generally protect you from the disease more than they protect unvaccinated others from you transmitting it.
  - locallost 5y ago
    That you still can't infect someone with cancer. But it's not so important.
s1artibartfast 5y ago
It can* cause cancer. Some estimate up to 99% of cervical cancer cases are caused by HPV, but having HPV causes has a lifetime cancer risk of 0.6%.
- mike00632 5y ago
  The point is that we currently have a vaccine that eradicates those types of cancers but we have very low numbers of people willing to take the vaccine because of cultural hesitancy
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    I would quibble with your definition of "very low", given that the number is >50% in the US. I agree we have a preventative treatment for a cancer and not everyone takes it. What conclusions do you draw from this point as it relates to this thread (or in general)? Personally, I'm surprised that uptake is so fast for a relatively new and elective treatment. Even moreso when considering that it addresses a rare disease that effects people many decades later.
    - mike00632 5y ago
      Do you have a source for that? Because my understanding is that even in young people (the original CDC target for the vaccine), the vaccination rate is under 50% in the US. https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/partners/outreach-hcp/hpv-coverage.html#:~:text=In%202017%2C%20roughly%20half%20(49,to%20start%20the%20vaccine%20series https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/partners/outreach-hcp/hpv-coverage.h....
      - s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Here is a more recent link from the CDC that puts it at 75% started and 58% complete for adolescents.[1] This isn't surprising because the CDC shows adoption going up a few percent per year. This year over year increase is more or less what you would expect given we are still in the adoption phase of this new medicine.[2] Eventually this increase will stall out with some people refusing to use it, but we aren't there yet. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db354.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db354.htm