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AWS wouldn't monitor itself from a competitor, of course, but they could just as well silo a team and isolate DCs to do independent self-auditing.
by itisit 5y ago
AWS wouldn't monitor itself from a competitor, of course, but they could just as well silo a team and isolate DCs to do independent self-auditing.
- rozenmd 5y agoI don't know about AWS, but I know a lot of us uptime monitoring makers use (and pay) for competitor's products to know if we're down.
- itisit 5y agoRightly so. My point is a company can self-audit without having to pay a competitor.
- lostlogin 5y agoAbsolutely. And even if it’s cheaper to use the competition, an expensive custom solution will be found.
- whimsicalism 5y agoI think that is inherently riskier because you never know on what axis you will have a failure and it is difficult to exclude all shared axes.
- 8note 5y agoThat applies when you use competitors too. They could have a related outage, or even a coincidentally timed one
- jethro_tell 5y agoBut we're talking about a status page which should be basically static. In it's simplest form you need a rack in 2+ random colos and a few people to manage the page update framework. Then you make teams submit the tests that are used to validate SLA. Run the tests from a few DCs and rebuild the status page every minute or two. Maybe add a CDN. This shit isn't rocket science and being able to accurately monitor your own systems from off infrastructure is the one time you should really be separate.
- reaperducer 5y agoAWS wouldn't monitor itself from a competitor, of course Why not? The big tech companies use each other all the time. For example, set up a new firewall on macOS and you can see how many times Apple pulls data from Amazon or Azure or other competitors' APIs and services.
- jethro_tell 5y agoApple is not a competitor to AWS or Azure in any way. They offer not infrastructure/platform as a service that I am aware of.
- reaperducer 5y agoApple and Amazon are competitors. Apple and Microsoft competitors. The postulation was that Apple and Amazon weren't competitors. Not that they're not competitors in a specific niche.
- jethro_tell 5y agoBut the idea that Amazon or Microsoft or Google would host anything at apple is pretty out there. Apple uses their competitor's services because they can't build their own cloud and host their own shit. The big boys don't use competitors for services they are capable of building themselves.
- QuinnyPig 5y agoAnd yet video.nest.com (Google) resolves to an Amazon load balancer.
- throwaway81523 5y agoThey have a bazillion alexa and kindle devices out there that they could monitor from, heh heh. At least let that phone-home behaviour do something useful, like notice AWS is down.