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Exactly. You need something not for when your laptop is removed from you, but when you are removed from your laptop. Also, if you are being targeted this hard

Exactly. You need something not for when your laptop is removed from you, but when you are removed from your laptop. Also, if you are being targeted this hard you need to have something for when you are left in front of your laptop and a gun is put to your head. Or the attackers threaten the welfare of your family.

somedude895 5y ago
> You need something not for when your laptop is removed from you, but when you are removed from your laptop. Yeah, this wouldn't have saved the admin of Alphabay, a now defunct darknet market. The FBI staged a car crash outside his house so when he'd come out to see what was going on they could arrest him and likely get to his laptop while it was unlocked. Then again, he really shouldn't have left his computer unlocked.
- mdrzn 5y ago
  > Alphabay Related video is all I could find about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrXD1M6kXk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrXD1M6kXk
- alias_neo 5y ago
  That seems like a great expense to go to for the sake of a possibility the guy might do more than peek out of the window and then go back to what they were doing. Surely there were a bunch of other options to consider before "let's stage a car crash"?
  - somedude895 5y ago
    I heard the story on the Darknet Diaries podcast. This article on Vice[0] seems to confirm it: > Phirippidis told the audience that the bureau managed to corner Cazes and arrest him while he was still logged in as the admin of AlphaBay by ramming a car through the front gate of his home in Thailand. [0] https://www.vice.com/en/article/59wwxx/fbi-airs-alexandre-cazes-alphabay-arrest-video https://www.vice.com/en/article/59wwxx/fbi-airs-alexandre-ca...
    - alias_neo 5y ago
      Thanks for the link, that was an interesting read. The part abour crashing it through his front gate makes it more likely he'll respond which makes more sense.
matheusmoreira 5y ago
If someome is pointing a gun at you, it's probably too late to do anything. There should probably be cameras and motion detectors monitoring the perimeter in order to provide early warning.
- kingcharles 5y ago
  The second part is harder to defend against. I didn't flinch when LEO pointed a loaded gun at me and threatened to shoot me, but as soon as they threatened my wife I told them I would sign whatever fiction they wanted to write, which I did. It just took me close to 8 years of being in jail to get a judge to look at it and tell them off and throw out the document.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    ... Police threatened your wife in order to make you sign a confession? That's extremely fucked up.
    - kingcharles 5y ago
      Yes. Stupid retards did it on video though, otherwise it wouldn't have been seen at all. This was after over an hour of threatening me and refusing my right to silence, not letting me speak to my lawyer, etc.
      - at_a_remove 5y ago
        I would like to know more, if you're able. Eight years of false imprisonment sounds like lawsuit city, to me.
        kingcharles 5y ago
        It is. I filed suit for a lot of different claims related to this, the only one that stuck was the coerced statements. I filed in 2015 but it is still working through the federal court.

somedude895 5y ago

> You need something not for when your laptop is removed from you, but when you are removed from your laptop. Yeah, this wouldn't have saved the admin of Alphabay, a now defunct darknet market. The FBI staged a car crash outside his house so when he'd come out to see what was going on they could arrest him and likely get to his laptop while it was unlocked. Then again, he really shouldn't have left his computer unlocked.

mdrzn 5y ago
> Alphabay Related video is all I could find about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrXD1M6kXk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrXD1M6kXk
alias_neo 5y ago
That seems like a great expense to go to for the sake of a possibility the guy might do more than peek out of the window and then go back to what they were doing. Surely there were a bunch of other options to consider before "let's stage a car crash"?
- somedude895 5y ago
  I heard the story on the Darknet Diaries podcast. This article on Vice[0] seems to confirm it: > Phirippidis told the audience that the bureau managed to corner Cazes and arrest him while he was still logged in as the admin of AlphaBay by ramming a car through the front gate of his home in Thailand. [0] https://www.vice.com/en/article/59wwxx/fbi-airs-alexandre-cazes-alphabay-arrest-video https://www.vice.com/en/article/59wwxx/fbi-airs-alexandre-ca...
  - alias_neo 5y ago
    Thanks for the link, that was an interesting read. The part abour crashing it through his front gate makes it more likely he'll respond which makes more sense.

matheusmoreira 5y ago

If someome is pointing a gun at you, it's probably too late to do anything. There should probably be cameras and motion detectors monitoring the perimeter in order to provide early warning.

kingcharles 5y ago
The second part is harder to defend against. I didn't flinch when LEO pointed a loaded gun at me and threatened to shoot me, but as soon as they threatened my wife I told them I would sign whatever fiction they wanted to write, which I did. It just took me close to 8 years of being in jail to get a judge to look at it and tell them off and throw out the document.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  ... Police threatened your wife in order to make you sign a confession? That's extremely fucked up.
  - kingcharles 5y ago
    Yes. Stupid retards did it on video though, otherwise it wouldn't have been seen at all. This was after over an hour of threatening me and refusing my right to silence, not letting me speak to my lawyer, etc.
    - at_a_remove 5y ago
      I would like to know more, if you're able. Eight years of false imprisonment sounds like lawsuit city, to me.
      - kingcharles 5y ago
        It is. I filed suit for a lot of different claims related to this, the only one that stuck was the coerced statements. I filed in 2015 but it is still working through the federal court.