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While that may be true, I'm not sure that's evidence that DSL's are the reason. I would argue the explanation is: JavaScript. I think many people are compelled

While that may be true, I'm not sure that's evidence that DSL's are the reason. I would argue the explanation is: JavaScript. I think many people are compelled by the idea that you can learn one language, and handle both back and front-end development. As the language has improved over the past ~10 years, this angle has only become more compelling, and has eaten into the popularity of other "traditional" web frameworks like Django, Rails, Spring, etc.

emteycz 5y ago
I myself am one of these people. But even if Ruby worked anywhere and I could share all my code, I would still prefer TypeScript because of its support for typed JSX and excellent typing system overall. The IDE can help me in most cases, while it stays silent a lot with Ruby. I just don't see what more Ruby offers - and I'm saying that as someone who really likes OOP and really wanted to like Ruby.
- the_gastropod 5y ago
  I think JavaScript benefits from typing a lot more than Ruby does. Ruby is at least strongly typed, so doing something like `[] + {}` or `4 + {foo: "bar"}` will raise an exception instead of return you a seemingly-arbitrary value. As far as what Ruby offers over JavaScript? It's a bit personal preference, but I prefer Ruby for several reasons: - More stable ecosystem. There are more canonical "best" tools for the job. There's one dominant web framework, one dominant background job processor, one dominant task runner, debugger, testing framework, etc. - More robust standard library. Enumerable rocks. And rolls. - Better fits "OO" definitions—everything is an object in Ruby. It supports public/private/protected instance methods/variables.
lazyjeff 5y ago
I was about to say as well, JavaScript, SQL, were both niche DSLs that are now mainstream enough that people prep them for general software development interviews. JavaScript is now a general language, but maybe the most popular DSLs break out of that once they've gained a certain mindshare, at which point they're no longer a DSL.

emteycz 5y ago

I myself am one of these people. But even if Ruby worked anywhere and I could share all my code, I would still prefer TypeScript because of its support for typed JSX and excellent typing system overall. The IDE can help me in most cases, while it stays silent a lot with Ruby. I just don't see what more Ruby offers - and I'm saying that as someone who really likes OOP and really wanted to like Ruby.

the_gastropod 5y ago
I think JavaScript benefits from typing a lot more than Ruby does. Ruby is at least strongly typed, so doing something like `[] + {}` or `4 + {foo: "bar"}` will raise an exception instead of return you a seemingly-arbitrary value. As far as what Ruby offers over JavaScript? It's a bit personal preference, but I prefer Ruby for several reasons: - More stable ecosystem. There are more canonical "best" tools for the job. There's one dominant web framework, one dominant background job processor, one dominant task runner, debugger, testing framework, etc. - More robust standard library. Enumerable rocks. And rolls. - Better fits "OO" definitions—everything is an object in Ruby. It supports public/private/protected instance methods/variables.

lazyjeff 5y ago

I was about to say as well, JavaScript, SQL, were both niche DSLs that are now mainstream enough that people prep them for general software development interviews. JavaScript is now a general language, but maybe the most popular DSLs break out of that once they've gained a certain mindshare, at which point they're no longer a DSL.