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Such as a high end Ryzen, which eats the M1 for breakfast ? Sure.

GeekyBear 5y ago
The M1 chips that have been released certainly can't compete on core count against desktop chips with Zen 3 cores, but compared to the laptop versions of Ryzen, the M1 is absolutely not being eaten for breakfast. >The chips here aren’t only able to outclass any competitor laptop design, but also competes against the best desktop systems out there, you’d have to bring out server-class hardware to get ahead of the M1 Max – it’s just generally absurd. https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/7 https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  This article is one of the few anandtech articles which is just straight up wrong and/or incomplete on many points, notably only comparing to (relatively) old desktop chips. A 5900HX (released in January) scores 50% higher on multithreading on cinebench, and equal on single threaded tests like Geekbench. A 5900HX is available on laptops that start at $2500, unlike the $4000 that a macbook pro would run you. So, really, what this is saying is that a brand new, constructor specific 5nm SoC that is tailor made with a CPU/memory quasi-direct link is about equal to a year and a half old 7nm CPU, while being twice as expensive. As much as the Apple fanboys can scream about pOwEr EfFiCciEnCy!1, making up a $1500 difference just in electricity costs is going to be hard. Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop, it's throttling itself if it's not plugged in anyways.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    > A 5900HX is available on laptops that start at $2500, unlike the $4000 that a macbook pro would run you. Confused. The MacBook Pro is also available from $2500.
  - simonh 5y ago
    > Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop I see you subscribe to the John Hodgman school of laptop design. https://youtu.be/gHG0cT_ck00 https://youtu.be/gHG0cT_ck00
  - handrous 5y ago
    > Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop, it's throttling itself if it's not plugged in anyways. Counterpoint: battery life and, for the first time in my life, being able to treat my laptop as actually portable and not have to carry a power brick and mouse (because other touchpads were so terrible) everywhere is the main thing that sold me on Macs, initially, after ~15 years of my computing life being totally Mac-free. It sold me fast. Turned me from "pft, Macs, OK, whatever, they're nothing special" to "huh, maybe there's something to this" to "I'm never buying anything but a Mac again until competitors can match [list of features I now wouldn't want to give up]" in like a month. Sadly, no other vendors seem close to closing that gap. Macs remain a category of their own. Not a great situation.
  - astrange 5y ago
    > Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop, it's throttling itself if it's not plugged in anyways. It isn't.

The M1 chips that have been released certainly can't compete on core count against desktop chips with Zen 3 cores, but compared to the laptop versions of Ryzen, the M1 is absolutely not being eaten for breakfast. >The chips here aren’t only able to outclass any competitor laptop design, but also competes against the best desktop systems out there, you’d have to bring out server-class hardware to get ahead of the M1 Max – it’s just generally absurd. https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performance-review/7 https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...

ohgodplsno 5y ago
This article is one of the few anandtech articles which is just straight up wrong and/or incomplete on many points, notably only comparing to (relatively) old desktop chips. A 5900HX (released in January) scores 50% higher on multithreading on cinebench, and equal on single threaded tests like Geekbench. A 5900HX is available on laptops that start at $2500, unlike the $4000 that a macbook pro would run you. So, really, what this is saying is that a brand new, constructor specific 5nm SoC that is tailor made with a CPU/memory quasi-direct link is about equal to a year and a half old 7nm CPU, while being twice as expensive. As much as the Apple fanboys can scream about pOwEr EfFiCciEnCy!1, making up a $1500 difference just in electricity costs is going to be hard. Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop, it's throttling itself if it's not plugged in anyways.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > A 5900HX is available on laptops that start at $2500, unlike the $4000 that a macbook pro would run you. Confused. The MacBook Pro is also available from $2500.
- simonh 5y ago
  > Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop I see you subscribe to the John Hodgman school of laptop design. https://youtu.be/gHG0cT_ck00 https://youtu.be/gHG0cT_ck00
- handrous 5y ago
  > Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop, it's throttling itself if it's not plugged in anyways. Counterpoint: battery life and, for the first time in my life, being able to treat my laptop as actually portable and not have to carry a power brick and mouse (because other touchpads were so terrible) everywhere is the main thing that sold me on Macs, initially, after ~15 years of my computing life being totally Mac-free. It sold me fast. Turned me from "pft, Macs, OK, whatever, they're nothing special" to "huh, maybe there's something to this" to "I'm never buying anything but a Mac again until competitors can match [list of features I now wouldn't want to give up]" in like a month. Sadly, no other vendors seem close to closing that gap. Macs remain a category of their own. Not a great situation.
- astrange 5y ago
  > Battery life doesn't matter, just plug your damn laptop, it's throttling itself if it's not plugged in anyways. It isn't.