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" I highly doubt they're of the size required to sustain multi-week storm/bad weather events" Those bad weather events come usually with lots of wind - which y

" I highly doubt they're of the size required to sustain multi-week storm/bad weather events" Those bad weather events come usually with lots of wind - which you can harvest, too. So the solution might just be the often propagated energy mix. And you can build batteries without any rare elements(natrium instead of lithium), so if you build enough of them and enough solar and co. then who cares if some of that energy gets lost, as long as the grid remains stable?

sofixa 5y ago
> Those bad weather events come usually with lots of wind - which you can harvest, too. So the solution might just be the often propagated energy mix. As i have said a few times around here, there's a meteorological phenomenon across Europe now ( since September, and projected to go well into the winter), with bad weather ( clouds, low sunlight), low temperatures, and low wind speeds. Traditional hydro and tidal energy generation are still OK, but solar and wind are at historical lows. And again, this is ongoing for months. Furthermore, a bad weather event like storms can have winds that are too fast for a wind generator to operate safely.
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  Well, I know that, because I have to sustain that lack of sun and wind here, too. But the south(west) of europe still has lots of sun, like it almost always has. And a bit further south, there is always sun in the desert. So yes, I would not deconstruct all the conventional power plants, just yet. And I think having some backup gas plants is not a bad idea, either.
- cedilla 5y ago
  At least for Germany, that's just not the case. Wind is going quite strong this quarter, so strong that it easily offsets the lower-than-average solar generation. And that's mostly due to the weather – expansion was massively stalled by conservative administrations in the last few years.

sofixa 5y ago

> Those bad weather events come usually with lots of wind - which you can harvest, too. So the solution might just be the often propagated energy mix. As i have said a few times around here, there's a meteorological phenomenon across Europe now ( since September, and projected to go well into the winter), with bad weather ( clouds, low sunlight), low temperatures, and low wind speeds. Traditional hydro and tidal energy generation are still OK, but solar and wind are at historical lows. And again, this is ongoing for months. Furthermore, a bad weather event like storms can have winds that are too fast for a wind generator to operate safely.

hutzlibu 5y ago
Well, I know that, because I have to sustain that lack of sun and wind here, too. But the south(west) of europe still has lots of sun, like it almost always has. And a bit further south, there is always sun in the desert. So yes, I would not deconstruct all the conventional power plants, just yet. And I think having some backup gas plants is not a bad idea, either.
cedilla 5y ago
At least for Germany, that's just not the case. Wind is going quite strong this quarter, so strong that it easily offsets the lower-than-average solar generation. And that's mostly due to the weather – expansion was massively stalled by conservative administrations in the last few years.