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Actually the article tells us the vaccins are probably causing heart issues. It's easy to take this line and shove it into a tweet but then you would ignore thi
by teekert 5y ago
Actually the article tells us the vaccins are probably causing heart issues. It's easy to take this line and shove it into a tweet but then you would ignore this part:
We found increased risks of myocarditis associated with the first dose of ChAdOx1 and BNT162b2 vaccines and the first and second doses of the mRNA-1273 vaccine over the 1–28 days postvaccination period, and after a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We also observed increased risks of pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias following a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. Similar associations were not observed with any of the COVID-19 vaccines, apart from an increased risk of arrhythmia following a second dose of mRNA-1273. Subgroup analyses by age showed the increased risk of myocarditis associated with the two mRNA vaccines was present only in those younger than 40.
Which is a tough read and far more subtle. The downsides of the vaccines need to be constantly weighed against the downsides of contracting Covid19 un-vaccinated. And this is different for different age groups (and very probably ethnicity, BMI, etc).
I bet people will take single lines from this article and shove them into tweets which shows exactly how harmful that can be, it does only one thing: Polarize. The truth is complex and you can't tell people to please refrain from commenting if you don't understand the concept of confidence intervals, for example.
I've been trying to stress this to friends on both sides, some (the minority) are angry that the government and (former) friends feel that they are obliged to inject themselves with a substance they don't understand, and some are angry that you can be so selfish that you don't want to join everyone in the only collective effort we have to beat that damn Covid19. Both want to die thinking "I did it my way". Both are primarily angry these days. What a shame.
I like this admission from the scientists, I think we can all get behind that:
By the end of September 2021, more than 6.3 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccination had been administered worldwide1. Clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines were underpowered to detect the rare adverse events that are important for risk–benefit evaluations and to inform clinical practice postvaccination. Therefore, identifying such rare adverse events is now a global scientific priority.
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