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I would rather enjoy constant nuclear energy rather than be a slave for some device which dictates me when to cook or wash. People where is your fundamental fre

I would rather enjoy constant nuclear energy rather than be a slave for some device which dictates me when to cook or wash. People where is your fundamental freedom desire?

timonoko 5y ago
The view of the European Union (aka German Green Party) is that Nukular Energy is not renewable or desirable. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-nuclear-energy-good-for-the-climate/a-59853315 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-nuclear-energy-good-for-...
- sofixa 5y ago
  That's not the view of the EU, many countries in it are heavily pro-nuclear and fighting to have it marked as "green".
- _fizz_buzz_ 5y ago
  Certain countries in the EU view that nuclear energy is not "green", not the whole EU. The European Commission will make a call very soon for the upcoming funding period and frankly it looks like they will support nuclear energy.
- IanSanders 5y ago
  Surely that must be a politically motivated stance.
- batushka3 5y ago
  Germany is champion of hypocrisy: stopped nuclear plants and ramped up coal usage, now plans to build gas fired stations and labels them green. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-electricity-source/a-59168105 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-elec...
  - jimmydorry 5y ago
    Not just any coal either. They opted for brown coal, the least efficient and most dirty kind.
ZeroGravitas 5y ago
In reality/history nuclear has often been the reason to introduce time of use pricing, to encourage people to move loads to the overnight demand lulls to better match nuclear's flat output. So I guess that's one more flaw in the extreme anarchist case for more nuclear power.
- bregma 5y ago
  The same argument can certainly be made for solar. To encourage you to use power while it's available, so for example only use your lights during the daytime hours.
  - ben_w 5y ago
    Lights are such a minor power draw these days they’re almost a rounding error. An electric car driven 30 miles per day is going to use 3000-9000 Wh, a 10 W LED left on overnight is going to use ~120 Wh.
zionic 5y ago
>People where is your fundamental freedom desire? This trait has been slowly but surely bred out of the modern population I think.
BoiledCabbage 5y ago
> People where is your fundamental freedom desire? Knowing the price of something you consume is taking away your fundamental freedom? If that's the case, you should probably stop looking at prices when making any purchases - all things from groceries, electronics, cars ... wouldn't want to lose more of it. It goes to show how meaninglessly people now use that word - it's essential become a flag for "anything I like (or dislike)" with no bearing on reality.

I would rather enjoy constant nuclear energy rather than be a slave for some device which dictates me when to cook or wash. People where is your fundamental freedom desire?

timonoko 5y ago

The view of the European Union (aka German Green Party) is that Nukular Energy is not renewable or desirable. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-nuclear-energy-good-for-the-climate/a-59853315 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-nuclear-energy-good-for-...

sofixa 5y ago
That's not the view of the EU, many countries in it are heavily pro-nuclear and fighting to have it marked as "green".
_fizz_buzz_ 5y ago
Certain countries in the EU view that nuclear energy is not "green", not the whole EU. The European Commission will make a call very soon for the upcoming funding period and frankly it looks like they will support nuclear energy.
IanSanders 5y ago
Surely that must be a politically motivated stance.
batushka3 5y ago
Germany is champion of hypocrisy: stopped nuclear plants and ramped up coal usage, now plans to build gas fired stations and labels them green. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-electricity-source/a-59168105 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-coal-tops-wind-as-primary-elec...
- jimmydorry 5y ago
  Not just any coal either. They opted for brown coal, the least efficient and most dirty kind.

ZeroGravitas 5y ago

In reality/history nuclear has often been the reason to introduce time of use pricing, to encourage people to move loads to the overnight demand lulls to better match nuclear's flat output. So I guess that's one more flaw in the extreme anarchist case for more nuclear power.

bregma 5y ago
The same argument can certainly be made for solar. To encourage you to use power while it's available, so for example only use your lights during the daytime hours.
- ben_w 5y ago
  Lights are such a minor power draw these days they’re almost a rounding error. An electric car driven 30 miles per day is going to use 3000-9000 Wh, a 10 W LED left on overnight is going to use ~120 Wh.

zionic 5y ago

>People where is your fundamental freedom desire? This trait has been slowly but surely bred out of the modern population I think.

BoiledCabbage 5y ago

> People where is your fundamental freedom desire? Knowing the price of something you consume is taking away your fundamental freedom? If that's the case, you should probably stop looking at prices when making any purchases - all things from groceries, electronics, cars ... wouldn't want to lose more of it. It goes to show how meaninglessly people now use that word - it's essential become a flag for "anything I like (or dislike)" with no bearing on reality.