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+1. I have Siri, Alexa, and Google home devices in my house, and Siri is the best in terms of competence and privacy. Alexa feels like being bugged by a creepo

+1. I have Siri, Alexa, and Google home devices in my house, and Siri is the best in terms of competence and privacy. Alexa feels like being bugged by a creepo who keeps trying to sell me stuff. (We got rid of the Alexa.)

fartcannon 5y ago
They all spy. Alexa is just the most obvious. You should get rid of them all.
- LeoPanthera 5y ago
  I hate writing "citation needed", but, citation needed. That's a big claim.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Apple owns up to sending a certain amount of telemetry[0] back home, but we have no way of verifying what it is since the traffic is encrypted. It's impossible to know what data it's collecting and sending back, or even how anonymized that information is. On top of that, Siri invocations are recorded and saved for 6 months, and then retained for an additional 2 years after being dis-associated with your account. Once again, there is no way for us to verify Apple's claims here; we could definitely have another iMessage scenario on our hands where they just keep all that data anyways, and when they're called out on it they simply blame the USA and try to look as powerless as possible. Like the other commenter suggested, it hinges solely on how much you trust a single company. This single company in question is located in the domestic United States, is known to comply with intelligence agencies, and has every reason in the world to kiss up to American authority. I'll let you do the math here. [0] https://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/homepod-echo-google-home-how-secure-are-your-speakers/ https://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/homepod-echo-google-hom...
  - colordrops 5y ago
    UFOs, cold fusion, and reptilian overlords are big claims. A company driven by profit with a history of questionable practices doing shady things with data is in no way a big claim. It's happened countless times.
- marginalia_nu 5y ago
  I find it pretty funny how the business model is pretty much exactly that of BonziBuddy.
Clampower 5y ago
?? I have Alexa through Sonos for years. It has never tried to sell me anything? What’s the context of these upsells?

fartcannon 5y ago

They all spy. Alexa is just the most obvious. You should get rid of them all.

LeoPanthera 5y ago
I hate writing "citation needed", but, citation needed. That's a big claim.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Apple owns up to sending a certain amount of telemetry[0] back home, but we have no way of verifying what it is since the traffic is encrypted. It's impossible to know what data it's collecting and sending back, or even how anonymized that information is. On top of that, Siri invocations are recorded and saved for 6 months, and then retained for an additional 2 years after being dis-associated with your account. Once again, there is no way for us to verify Apple's claims here; we could definitely have another iMessage scenario on our hands where they just keep all that data anyways, and when they're called out on it they simply blame the USA and try to look as powerless as possible. Like the other commenter suggested, it hinges solely on how much you trust a single company. This single company in question is located in the domestic United States, is known to comply with intelligence agencies, and has every reason in the world to kiss up to American authority. I'll let you do the math here. [0] https://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/homepod-echo-google-home-how-secure-are-your-speakers/ https://www.cnet.com/home/smart-home/homepod-echo-google-hom...
- colordrops 5y ago
  UFOs, cold fusion, and reptilian overlords are big claims. A company driven by profit with a history of questionable practices doing shady things with data is in no way a big claim. It's happened countless times.
marginalia_nu 5y ago
I find it pretty funny how the business model is pretty much exactly that of BonziBuddy.

Clampower 5y ago

?? I have Alexa through Sonos for years. It has never tried to sell me anything? What’s the context of these upsells?