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"One colleague apparently even came over to her house and tried to touch her multiple times, despite her pleas to stay professional." Wait, what? How does a co

"One colleague apparently even came over to her house and tried to touch her multiple times, despite her pleas to stay professional." Wait, what? How does a colleague just end up at your home? I'd love to see the message traffic that led up to this incident. I wouldn't be surprised if the other party interpreted it as severely mixed signals. “Some of the men who work at SpaceX hug women without consent, stare at women while they work, and interpret every social encounter as an opportunity to date (or hit on) women in the office" Is this really that surprising, in the #metoo era? The messaging that cold-approaching strangers = sexual harassment has been received, so Joe Average isn't hitting on women in the street anymore. How are the legions of thirsty lames, who aren't attractive enough to compete in the top-tier of men on Tinder/Bumble/Instagram, supposed to find companionship if not via approaching their coworkers? All that said....I hope when my daughter reaches working age, she'll have the wherewithal to just throat-punch anyone dumb enough to grope her at work.

gexla 5y ago
They went through the effort to get a job. Why not think that you might have to go through a similar effort to get into a relationship? And maybe they are looking out of their league if they aren't attractive enough to get dates. Maybe strike up some conversations in the checkout line with People of Walmart.
- yholio 5y ago
  Looking out of your league is an universal human right; no one should be arbitrarily punished because they asked out someone who was offended by the attention of an unattractive person. This is common sense social interaction, the state and society should be involved if someone is victimized, for example if the advances continue even after a clear and unambiguous rejection.
  - gexla 5y ago
    > Looking out of your league is an universal human right; no one should be arbitrarily punished because they asked out someone who was offended by the attention of an unattractive person I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to this part. > How are the legions of thirsty lames, who aren't attractive enough to compete in the top-tier of men on Tinder/Bumble/Instagram, supposed to find companionship If you're not attractive and not getting dates, then maybe you need to open up your field so that you're giving yourself more options. I didn't say anything about punishment. Though people absolutely not be hitting on others at work. There's a HUGE difference between hitting on people at work and on the street. People who are at work have nowhere to run. You can disappear from others when you're on the street. People must have an escape. I even have options on social media if someone is stalking me. But if I can't get HR to deal with issues at work, then where do I turn? I guess the answer is that you get stories appearing in the media.

gexla 5y ago

They went through the effort to get a job. Why not think that you might have to go through a similar effort to get into a relationship? And maybe they are looking out of their league if they aren't attractive enough to get dates. Maybe strike up some conversations in the checkout line with People of Walmart.

yholio 5y ago
Looking out of your league is an universal human right; no one should be arbitrarily punished because they asked out someone who was offended by the attention of an unattractive person. This is common sense social interaction, the state and society should be involved if someone is victimized, for example if the advances continue even after a clear and unambiguous rejection.
- gexla 5y ago
  > Looking out of your league is an universal human right; no one should be arbitrarily punished because they asked out someone who was offended by the attention of an unattractive person I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to this part. > How are the legions of thirsty lames, who aren't attractive enough to compete in the top-tier of men on Tinder/Bumble/Instagram, supposed to find companionship If you're not attractive and not getting dates, then maybe you need to open up your field so that you're giving yourself more options. I didn't say anything about punishment. Though people absolutely not be hitting on others at work. There's a HUGE difference between hitting on people at work and on the street. People who are at work have nowhere to run. You can disappear from others when you're on the street. People must have an escape. I even have options on social media if someone is stalking me. But if I can't get HR to deal with issues at work, then where do I turn? I guess the answer is that you get stories appearing in the media.