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The Tenderloin plan apparently has the following priorities: Preventing violent crime; Streamlining emergency medical calls; Interrupting open air-drug dealing

The Tenderloin plan apparently has the following priorities: Preventing violent crime; Streamlining emergency medical calls; Interrupting open air-drug dealing; Interrupting open-air substance abuse; Establishing safe passage and accessibility for citizens; Expanding housing resources; Interrupting illegal vending; Improving neighborhood cleanliness; Only point 6 is about actually helping the homeless.

goodpoint 5y ago
...and 4 points are about hiding the problems instead of solving them.
diebeforei485 5y ago
What if I told you that there are plenty of people and families in the Tenderloin that face public safety issues on the daily on their way to school? Now that a safe injection site is opening, we need no longer tolerate people injecting needles into themselves on the streets. Maybe you think what's going on in the Tenderloin (and Soma) is acceptable. But if so, you're in the minority now. No one should be subjected to being harassed by psychotic people while picking up household necessities at Target on a Saturday afternoon. After all these years people's patience is wearing thin.
- thomasahle 5y ago
  > Maybe you think what's going on in the Tenderloin (and Soma) is acceptable. I definitely don't think things are good as they are now. And I would highly appreciate programs that help the homeless as well as cleans things up. > What if I told you that there are plenty of people and families in the Tenderloin that face public safety issues on the daily on their way to school? If you read the post I was replying too, bostonsre was describing this program as mainly about helping the poor, and with cleaning up as a side effect. In reality the program mostly talks about the cleaning up side of things. That's all.
  - diogenescynic 5y ago
    What would help the homeless that SF isn’t already doing? City already offers them shelter and services. And most refuse because the pay don’t want to obey any rules. There’s always this constant rhetoric that more needs to be done but frankly SF is already doing a ton but it’s all optional… it needs to be mandator. Either you accept the housing, or we arrest you for blocking public sidewalks. Either you accept drug counseling, or we arrest you for drug possession. If there is no carrot and stick approach, people will just keep using. And now that meth and heroin are decriminalized and theft is decriminalized, it’s obvious why things are only getting worse.
microtherion 5y ago
The homeless are highly vulnerable to violent crime, and often deal with illness and disability, so less violent crime and better emergency services & accessibility should benefit many of them.

goodpoint 5y ago

...and 4 points are about hiding the problems instead of solving them.

diebeforei485 5y ago

What if I told you that there are plenty of people and families in the Tenderloin that face public safety issues on the daily on their way to school? Now that a safe injection site is opening, we need no longer tolerate people injecting needles into themselves on the streets. Maybe you think what's going on in the Tenderloin (and Soma) is acceptable. But if so, you're in the minority now. No one should be subjected to being harassed by psychotic people while picking up household necessities at Target on a Saturday afternoon. After all these years people's patience is wearing thin.

thomasahle 5y ago
> Maybe you think what's going on in the Tenderloin (and Soma) is acceptable. I definitely don't think things are good as they are now. And I would highly appreciate programs that help the homeless as well as cleans things up. > What if I told you that there are plenty of people and families in the Tenderloin that face public safety issues on the daily on their way to school? If you read the post I was replying too, bostonsre was describing this program as mainly about helping the poor, and with cleaning up as a side effect. In reality the program mostly talks about the cleaning up side of things. That's all.
- diogenescynic 5y ago
  What would help the homeless that SF isn’t already doing? City already offers them shelter and services. And most refuse because the pay don’t want to obey any rules. There’s always this constant rhetoric that more needs to be done but frankly SF is already doing a ton but it’s all optional… it needs to be mandator. Either you accept the housing, or we arrest you for blocking public sidewalks. Either you accept drug counseling, or we arrest you for drug possession. If there is no carrot and stick approach, people will just keep using. And now that meth and heroin are decriminalized and theft is decriminalized, it’s obvious why things are only getting worse.

microtherion 5y ago

The homeless are highly vulnerable to violent crime, and often deal with illness and disability, so less violent crime and better emergency services & accessibility should benefit many of them.