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Progress. Once we have the majority, it will be interesting to measure the moral temperament of society. Some might suggest it will be worse. But could it impro
by whalesalad 5y ago
Progress. Once we have the majority, it will be interesting to measure the moral temperament of society. Some might suggest it will be worse. But could it improve? Either way it’s good to see. Once we’re no longer conditioning our children with religious dogma they’ll be more free to grow up into true versions of themselves.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoThis is temporary though due to the non-religious self selecting to have vastly fewer children. It’s why the UN is projecting that the share of non religious globally will actually continue to shrink as the EU fades away and a hundred million Christians are added in China etc.
- PeterisP 5y agoIt's not like the religious and non-religious communities reproduce solely by having kids - this trend is driven by religious parents having non-religious children, and also there's the opposite phenomenon; IMHO the choices the teenagers and young adults make far outweigh any difference in fertility rates.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoIf the father is practicing, it’s something like 80% of the kids will. What we are experiencing now might be a second order blip due to WW1&2 wiping out so many fathers.
- philipkglass 5y agoSwitzerland has seen a similar rise of the unaffiliated and it never suffered mass casualties from the World Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Switzerland#Census_data https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Switzerland#Census... If it's 80% retention per generation, there's no fatherless-blip needed to explain the decline since WW II. 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 = 51.2% retention after three generations.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoOne must account for the recent phenomena that religious fathers have far more children.
- QuarterReptile 5y agoI have to think that the WW1/2 connection is a stretch (would be interested to hear more), but for anyone sceptical about the continuity of the high attendance following fathers' attendance, an article on the subject based on some survey data from the 90s: https://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-05-024-v https://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-05-...
- betterunix2 5y agoIt will have no impact on morality because few people actually derive their morals from a religion, even if they claim to. Religions contextualize and validate morals that adherents hold regardless of their active participation, and some religions even take this premise and run with it (e.g. that people have an innate instinct to do what's morally right which is in tension with their innate instinct to do what's wrong).
- whalesalad 5y agoWell what comes first, the chicken or the egg? How does one learn morals if not from an external source, such as a teacher, parent or pastor?