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What percentage does it take to reach herd immunity?

by stevenalowe 5y ago

robomartin 5y ago
> What percentage does it take to reach herd immunity? Now, that is absolutely hilarious! Thanks for a good laugh.
daxfohl 5y ago
Never. Even once religiousness goes away, there's still plenty of raw tribalism and xenophobia left to compensate.
- Ensorceled 5y ago
  True, but religion creates extra tribalism (no gays! no Muslims!) and adds a healthy dose of justification for the tribalism. The way many Christian churches have fully embraced the "Jesus wants you to be rich" mantra and the "the poor deserve to be poor" mentality is fully out in the open now.
  - daxfohl 5y ago
    There's plenty of non-religious homophobia in Europe. Besides, the Bible doesn't talk about homosexuality nearly as much as other things that many Christians ignore (or so I've heard). It's all tribalism at the core. Trump could be out doing abortions on Times Square and not lose any votes.
    - jcranmer 5y ago
      Religious texts tend not to contain a lot of the bigoted mores usually ascribed to them--be it the Torah, the Bible, the Quran, what have you. Instead, a lot of this tends to originate from non-scriptual sources, such as the opinions of religious experts over the centuries interpreting these texts and imposing their own beliefs as ironclad scriptual law. (There's a particular irony when this happens in Christianity, as one of the main themes of Jesus' teaching is that strictly following religious law doesn't inherently make you a good person; the main villains of the New Testament are holier-than-thou religious types.)
    - Ensorceled 5y ago
      > Besides, the Bible doesn't talk about homosexuality nearly as much as other things that many Christians ignore I am talking about organized Christian religions and their affect of increasing tribalism among their members. I gave up trying to convince Christians that they were wrong using their bible quite a while ago; most don't really care.
      - daxfohl 5y ago
        Fair enough, I think I basically agree.
ummonk 5y ago
Stay that way long enough and the population becomes immunologically naive and religion spreads again.

What percentage does it take to reach herd immunity?

robomartin 5y ago

> What percentage does it take to reach herd immunity? Now, that is absolutely hilarious! Thanks for a good laugh.

daxfohl 5y ago

Never. Even once religiousness goes away, there's still plenty of raw tribalism and xenophobia left to compensate.

Ensorceled 5y ago
True, but religion creates extra tribalism (no gays! no Muslims!) and adds a healthy dose of justification for the tribalism. The way many Christian churches have fully embraced the "Jesus wants you to be rich" mantra and the "the poor deserve to be poor" mentality is fully out in the open now.
- daxfohl 5y ago
  There's plenty of non-religious homophobia in Europe. Besides, the Bible doesn't talk about homosexuality nearly as much as other things that many Christians ignore (or so I've heard). It's all tribalism at the core. Trump could be out doing abortions on Times Square and not lose any votes.
  - jcranmer 5y ago
    Religious texts tend not to contain a lot of the bigoted mores usually ascribed to them--be it the Torah, the Bible, the Quran, what have you. Instead, a lot of this tends to originate from non-scriptual sources, such as the opinions of religious experts over the centuries interpreting these texts and imposing their own beliefs as ironclad scriptual law. (There's a particular irony when this happens in Christianity, as one of the main themes of Jesus' teaching is that strictly following religious law doesn't inherently make you a good person; the main villains of the New Testament are holier-than-thou religious types.)
  - Ensorceled 5y ago
    > Besides, the Bible doesn't talk about homosexuality nearly as much as other things that many Christians ignore I am talking about organized Christian religions and their affect of increasing tribalism among their members. I gave up trying to convince Christians that they were wrong using their bible quite a while ago; most don't really care.
    - daxfohl 5y ago
      Fair enough, I think I basically agree.

ummonk 5y ago

Stay that way long enough and the population becomes immunologically naive and religion spreads again.