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“Microsoft Edge will collect and use data from your web searches”

66 points by tech234a 5y ago

908B64B197 5y ago
How is that different than Chrome and Safari?
- Apaec 5y ago
  Two wrongs don't make a right.
- BizarroLand 5y ago
  This is a textbook whataboutism
pinewurst 5y ago
…“when the setting for this feature is enabled”
- tech234a 5y ago
  Yeah I was running into the title-length limit unfortunately. The setting was automatically enabled by default for me after the 96.0.1054.53 update. Users are shown a prompt like [1] that indicates that the setting is active, but users have to go into Settings to turn off the feature. [1]: https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0ad981fe0.jpg https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0...
tech234a 5y ago
This seems like it may be similar to Microsoft was doing in 2011 [1]. However, while they are opting users in by default, at least they are being transparent about this, as I learned about this when I received a prompt that was similar to [2]. [1]: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses... [2]: https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0ad981fe0.jpg https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0...
- tdeck 5y ago
  There's no "at least" about this, it's completely shady to opt you in by default. The fact that they're legally required to notify you in some places is probably what changed.
- jsmith99 5y ago
  I got the same message but the options were something like 'turn on' and 'not now'.
nix23 5y ago
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/privacy-whitepaper/ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/privacy-whit... An error occurred during a connection to docs.microsoft.com. The OCSP response does not include a status for the certificate being verified. Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_OCSP_RESPONSE_FOR_CERT_MISSING I love it ;)
- outloudvi 5y ago
  Sure it's another problem: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745600 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745600
  - Melkman 5y ago
    Wait, what ? Mozilla is taking already more than 8 years to add SHA-2 support to mozilla::pkix's OCSP implementation ? This saddens me, the devs seem overloaded. As the only other open alternative to Chrome based browsers I hope they can stay current.
    - outloudvi 5y ago
      Well... Chromium has long abandoned OCSP, so Firefox seems to be the only "major" browser that does it. (And Microsoft just straightly ignored and broke it. Twice. One on docs.microsoft.com and another on microsoft.com.)
u2077 5y ago
“ Microsoft practices data collection minimization” - I find that hard to believe especially when we are automatically enrolled in said data collection.

66 points by tech234a 5y ago

908B64B197 5y ago

How is that different than Chrome and Safari?

Apaec 5y ago
Two wrongs don't make a right.
BizarroLand 5y ago
This is a textbook whataboutism

pinewurst 5y ago

…“when the setting for this feature is enabled”

tech234a 5y ago
Yeah I was running into the title-length limit unfortunately. The setting was automatically enabled by default for me after the 96.0.1054.53 update. Users are shown a prompt like [1] that indicates that the setting is active, but users have to go into Settings to turn off the feature. [1]: https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0ad981fe0.jpg https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0...

tech234a 5y ago

This seems like it may be similar to Microsoft was doing in 2011 [1]. However, while they are opting users in by default, at least they are being transparent about this, as I learned about this when I received a prompt that was similar to [2]. [1]: https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses... [2]: https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0ad981fe0.jpg https://static.cnbetacdn.com/thumb/article/2021/1112/30d96e0...

tdeck 5y ago
There's no "at least" about this, it's completely shady to opt you in by default. The fact that they're legally required to notify you in some places is probably what changed.
jsmith99 5y ago
I got the same message but the options were something like 'turn on' and 'not now'.

nix23 5y ago

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/privacy-whitepaper/ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/privacy-whit... An error occurred during a connection to docs.microsoft.com. The OCSP response does not include a status for the certificate being verified. Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_OCSP_RESPONSE_FOR_CERT_MISSING I love it ;)

outloudvi 5y ago
Sure it's another problem: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745600 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745600
- Melkman 5y ago
  Wait, what ? Mozilla is taking already more than 8 years to add SHA-2 support to mozilla::pkix's OCSP implementation ? This saddens me, the devs seem overloaded. As the only other open alternative to Chrome based browsers I hope they can stay current.
  - outloudvi 5y ago
    Well... Chromium has long abandoned OCSP, so Firefox seems to be the only "major" browser that does it. (And Microsoft just straightly ignored and broke it. Twice. One on docs.microsoft.com and another on microsoft.com.)

u2077 5y ago

“ Microsoft practices data collection minimization” - I find that hard to believe especially when we are automatically enrolled in said data collection.