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The vaccine was initially sold as the tool to end the pandemic and get life back to 'normal'. The narrative has evolved to suit the deficiencies of the vaccine
by jimmyearlcarter 5y ago
The vaccine was initially sold as the tool to end the pandemic and get life
back to 'normal'. The narrative has evolved to suit the deficiencies of the vaccine
and keep profits from sinking.
- NicoJuicy 5y agoOr if the virus gets irrelevant. One doesn't exclude the other. People don't see an end with natural evolution, so the vaccine was/is the main focus for a long time.
- yread 5y agoThey could have ended the wildtype pandemic. As soon as delta appeared it was impossible. They have 90% efficiency at best and you need 84% of all people protected to stop delta (1-1/R0 for R0=6). It's impossible to get such high vax rate.
- Ar-Curunir 5y agoNot necessarily. Eg the Netherlands has ~77% vaccination rate, which is pretty close to the quoted 84%.
- sharken 5y agoI'd go so far as to say 77% is "good enough", ie. it's time to live with the virus and not change our ways because of it.
- arcturus17 5y agoWe’re at 80% vaccination in Spain… I think we can surpass 84%.
- jefftk 5y ago37.7M fully vaccinated, 47.35M population -- impressive! I was initially assuming you were excluding kids or other people ineligible to get vaccinated.
- semi-extrinsic 5y agoIt was kinda-possible to return to normality with delta though. The entire EU is above 70% of the total population, with some countries above 80%. And of the unvaccinated, most are children who are less susceptible in the first place. But with Omicron, it's literally like we're back to March 2020. Norway (with 81% vaccination rate) went from normality to full lockdown in the past two weeks. I'm pretty sure that's coming everywhere else during the next month or so.
- sharken 5y agoIf lockdown is considered then it goes to show how little politicians know about the virus. We need to treat Corona the same way we treat the flu and we should start now. As an example the current number of hospitalizations here in Denmark is about 50% of the worst period for the 2017/18 flu. The thing is that various governments have neglected hospitals and health care, that is the real problem that must be dealt with.
- spookthesunset 5y agoIf omicron causes lockdowns again than this will literally happen every winter. Vaccines were the end state. There is nothing left to do but accept the risks and move on with life. People scared about hospital capacity should be asking strong questions to their politicians about why they squandered 2 years of peoples short life with zero new capacity. The public shouldn’t shoulder the failures of politicians nor these “experts”.
- nostrademons 5y agoThey pretty much did end the Delta pandemic in the Bay Area. We had a minor spike up and then it subsided without any major restrictions or strain on the healthcare system. Vaccination rates are 95%+ where I am, so 0.95 * 0.9 = 0.855 and it was still over the herd immunity threshold.
- teolandon 5y agoAny links to any marketing material "selling" the vaccine as the tool to end the pandemic?
- LZ_Khan 5y agoGovernments requiring it to work regularly again is the only "marketing material" you need.
- de_keyboard 5y agoThe UK government absolutely did this.
- dyslexit 5y ago> The narrative has evolved to suit the deficiencies of the vaccine and keep profits from sinking. The narrative may have evolved but that was more due to the virus evolving rather than some conspiracy driven by Pfizer and Moderna to sell more shots. More people being vaccinated benefits everyone, not just the pharmaceutical companies, and saying otherwise is a bit paranoid.