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Here's what I'm looking for: Solid linux laptop with a macbook style centered keyboard and touch pad. (system76 has offset touchpad / keyboard and it drives me

Here's what I'm looking for: Solid linux laptop with a macbook style centered keyboard and touch pad. (system76 has offset touchpad / keyboard and it drives me insane) Near perfect palm detection on the track pad like a macbook. Does anyone have a recommendation? I've not tried any newer lenovo lappies nor have I tried linux on a Razer laptop which looks very similar to a macbook. Maybe just wait for linux to run on M1?

cultofmetatron 5y ago
have you looked at the https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/ laptop? dunno about palm detection but its centered like the macbook
- leetrout 5y ago
  Thanks! That looks really cool
- randomluck040 5y ago
  This is so great but unfortunately not available in Germany yet. Looking forward to it.
  - cultofmetatron 5y ago
    this might be more your cup of tea then https://eu.starlabs.systems https://eu.starlabs.systems
    - randomluck040 5y ago
      Thank you, I’ll take a look. I wonder how I never stumbled on this one. Thanks!
kesslern 5y ago
I haven't had any issues with palm detection on my Thinkpad X1 Extreme. It's just worked since day 1. I have both Gen 1 and 2.
- stronglikedan 5y ago
  I have a Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 6, and haven't had any issues with palm detection either, unless I rest it too hard and it registers a physical click (which maybe only happened once or twice).
fsflover 5y ago
https://puri.sm/products/librem-14 https://puri.sm/products/librem-14
- devwastaken 5y ago
  All of that looks decent except for the barrel power adapter.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    It can also be charged from usb-c.
    - bubblethink 5y ago
      It's 2-3 generations old at this point. Really wouldn't recommend getting something this old. Comet Lake -> Ice Lake -> Tiger Lake -> Alder Lake (now). The starlabs starbook is quite interesting if you care about coreboot.
  - jmrm 5y ago
    What's the problem with barrel plug (outside being a standard)? I'm pretty curious about it.
    - devwastaken 5y ago
      Barrel plugs weaken over time because of strain, and if you pull on it the wrong direction you're liable to destroy the connector inside the laptop. Apple magsafe or Lenovo's Thinkpad charger design can easily breakaway. Barrel adapters are also easy to confuse with each other. Personally I want a magnetic USB c power delivery that doesn't suck.
      - jmrm 5y ago
        Both the old and the new Magsafe connectors and magnetic USB Type C cables are the best in this kind of situations, but I personally only would accept any other kind of USB charger if I'm totally sure it's easy to replace that part in the laptop and doesn't require to do a soldering job.
GhettoComputers 5y ago
What’s wrong with OSX on M1? It works great for all CLI stuff.
- josteink 5y ago
  > What’s wrong with OSX on M1? It’s not open-source and it’s not Linux.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Their kernel at least is and it’s Unix. From a user standpoint I don’t have any issues with it, it’s like if Linux could run photoshop natively and had good paid software and you can’t change the UI. It’s not ideal but it works for me.
    - fsflover 5y ago
      > Their kernel at least is It does not solve main problems of the proprietary software: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor....
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        I don't see the problem, I want to run better software I have to pay for, not crappy free stuff, and giving choice to do that is not a negative. If linux did not allow any paid software, it would not make it a better OS.
        fsflover 5y ago
        > better software I have to pay for, not crappy free stuff Free software is not about price, it's about freedom. It can (and should!) be paid for.
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
Engineering-MD 5y ago
I’ve not tried it, but the framework laptop I’m told is fairly similar.
jeffbee 5y ago
Pixelbook Go.
pmontra 5y ago
+1000 for the centered keyboard (and touchpad) with 15"+ screens. I'd pay an extra to get rid of the number pad.

cultofmetatron 5y ago

have you looked at the https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/ laptop? dunno about palm detection but its centered like the macbook

leetrout 5y ago
Thanks! That looks really cool
randomluck040 5y ago
This is so great but unfortunately not available in Germany yet. Looking forward to it.
- cultofmetatron 5y ago
  this might be more your cup of tea then https://eu.starlabs.systems https://eu.starlabs.systems
  - randomluck040 5y ago
    Thank you, I’ll take a look. I wonder how I never stumbled on this one. Thanks!

kesslern 5y ago

I haven't had any issues with palm detection on my Thinkpad X1 Extreme. It's just worked since day 1. I have both Gen 1 and 2.

stronglikedan 5y ago
I have a Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 6, and haven't had any issues with palm detection either, unless I rest it too hard and it registers a physical click (which maybe only happened once or twice).

fsflover 5y ago

https://puri.sm/products/librem-14 https://puri.sm/products/librem-14

devwastaken 5y ago
All of that looks decent except for the barrel power adapter.
- fsflover 5y ago
  It can also be charged from usb-c.
  - bubblethink 5y ago
    It's 2-3 generations old at this point. Really wouldn't recommend getting something this old. Comet Lake -> Ice Lake -> Tiger Lake -> Alder Lake (now). The starlabs starbook is quite interesting if you care about coreboot.
- jmrm 5y ago
  What's the problem with barrel plug (outside being a standard)? I'm pretty curious about it.
  - devwastaken 5y ago
    Barrel plugs weaken over time because of strain, and if you pull on it the wrong direction you're liable to destroy the connector inside the laptop. Apple magsafe or Lenovo's Thinkpad charger design can easily breakaway. Barrel adapters are also easy to confuse with each other. Personally I want a magnetic USB c power delivery that doesn't suck.
    - jmrm 5y ago
      Both the old and the new Magsafe connectors and magnetic USB Type C cables are the best in this kind of situations, but I personally only would accept any other kind of USB charger if I'm totally sure it's easy to replace that part in the laptop and doesn't require to do a soldering job.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

What’s wrong with OSX on M1? It works great for all CLI stuff.

josteink 5y ago
> What’s wrong with OSX on M1? It’s not open-source and it’s not Linux.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Their kernel at least is and it’s Unix. From a user standpoint I don’t have any issues with it, it’s like if Linux could run photoshop natively and had good paid software and you can’t change the UI. It’s not ideal but it works for me.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    > Their kernel at least is It does not solve main problems of the proprietary software: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor....
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      I don't see the problem, I want to run better software I have to pay for, not crappy free stuff, and giving choice to do that is not a negative. If linux did not allow any paid software, it would not make it a better OS.
      - fsflover 5y ago
        > better software I have to pay for, not crappy free stuff Free software is not about price, it's about freedom. It can (and should!) be paid for.
        GhettoComputers 5y ago

Engineering-MD 5y ago

I’ve not tried it, but the framework laptop I’m told is fairly similar.

jeffbee 5y ago

Pixelbook Go.

pmontra 5y ago

+1000 for the centered keyboard (and touchpad) with 15"+ screens. I'd pay an extra to get rid of the number pad.