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You can’t really configure a Mac at all.

matthewfcarlson 5y ago
For some that’s a feature, not a bug. I really wish there was at least a CLI you could use to tweak certain behaviors instead of a mix on nvram and system preference
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Agree but they’re complaining like I bought food at a restaurant and I can’t cook it. Seems like an invalid complaint.
duped 5y ago
You don't need to nearly as much, by comparison.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  If you can’t, you can’t call it need to. I’d compare it to GNOME.
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    From someone who’s used both macOS and GNOME a good deal, GNOME to me feels a lot more like iPadOS if it had been mildly adjusted to run on desktops than it does macOS. There’s several aspects of GNOME and its app suite that are more inflexible than macOS and its apps.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      I completely agree. If someone uses GNOME and says OSX isn't configuration friendly, the critique is very hypocritical, enough to be dismissed. If you say that and use almost any other DE (I love KDE) sure. Someone saying the overcooked steak is disgusting while eating a burnt piece of toast is hard to take serious, they are constantly breaking addons and plugins, its like they don't want any 3rd party support, not unlike the often critiqued apple desktop.
- howinteresting 5y ago
  How do you turn off workspace switching animations on Macs? Note, I said "turn off", which the "Reduce Motion" setting does not do. Also, how do you get a 4k monitor to run at 144Hz on an Intel Mac?
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Depends which OSX version you have for both, I don't know if your hardware supports the last one, but you might need the correct cable, HDMI doesn't do it for me, and if your intel GPU can't, it won't, not an OSX issue.
    - howinteresting 5y ago
      They are both MacOS issues. The first one is simply impossible to do on Monterey. The 4k 144 thing is a software regression (so not a hardware limitation) that still hasn't been fixed: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253168625 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253168625
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        I hate the every year we update model. I never do it for iOS or OSX. Miss snow leopard: selling point: 0 new features.
  - cassianoleal 5y ago
    I don't have a 4k monitor but I have an ultrawide that does 144Hz. The only way I found to use it that way was via SwitchResX.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      Does it make a big difference? I heard 60hz freesync would make a bigger difference than high refresh, it looked nice when I had 144hz but aside from me sliding my mouse it didn’t really change anything.
irae 5y ago
You can't really configure your car after you bought it either. Or your blender or your hair dryer. Not everything in the world needs to be configurable to be good. Yes, when moving from Windows to Mac, people miss stuff that could be configured. When moving from Mac to Windows, from Mac to Linux etc, it is always the same story. But people often miss the point that being configurable does not always means making it better necessarily. Part of configuration is to allow people to work differently, and that is good. But configuration to make it work like the competition (make Mac work like windows, or Mac work like linux) is beyond what configuration should be able to do anyway. Otherwise you end up with no consistency and a bad compromise. Even with Macs trying to offer a consistent experience, Mac apps can often behave differently. Back in the day when I used Linux I felt like many apps I needed to learn how they dealt with the most basic things like the menu locations, like window management, preferences/settings/configuration etc. Too much configuration is not healthy all the time. And Linux culture of "configure all the things" might be hurting Linux adoption itself.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  I agree, configuration is evil. I love my zero config fish shell.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    The problem with no configuration is that someone else (the vendor) configures it for you. Who doesn't necessarily have the same interests. Consider Microsoft complement destroying usability in Windows 8 just because they wanted to sell more tablets. Apple trying to lock you in ever deeper into their walled garden.

For some that’s a feature, not a bug. I really wish there was at least a CLI you could use to tweak certain behaviors instead of a mix on nvram and system preference

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Agree but they’re complaining like I bought food at a restaurant and I can’t cook it. Seems like an invalid complaint.

duped 5y ago

You don't need to nearly as much, by comparison.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
If you can’t, you can’t call it need to. I’d compare it to GNOME.
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  From someone who’s used both macOS and GNOME a good deal, GNOME to me feels a lot more like iPadOS if it had been mildly adjusted to run on desktops than it does macOS. There’s several aspects of GNOME and its app suite that are more inflexible than macOS and its apps.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    I completely agree. If someone uses GNOME and says OSX isn't configuration friendly, the critique is very hypocritical, enough to be dismissed. If you say that and use almost any other DE (I love KDE) sure. Someone saying the overcooked steak is disgusting while eating a burnt piece of toast is hard to take serious, they are constantly breaking addons and plugins, its like they don't want any 3rd party support, not unlike the often critiqued apple desktop.
howinteresting 5y ago
How do you turn off workspace switching animations on Macs? Note, I said "turn off", which the "Reduce Motion" setting does not do. Also, how do you get a 4k monitor to run at 144Hz on an Intel Mac?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Depends which OSX version you have for both, I don't know if your hardware supports the last one, but you might need the correct cable, HDMI doesn't do it for me, and if your intel GPU can't, it won't, not an OSX issue.
  - howinteresting 5y ago
    They are both MacOS issues. The first one is simply impossible to do on Monterey. The 4k 144 thing is a software regression (so not a hardware limitation) that still hasn't been fixed: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253168625 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253168625
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      I hate the every year we update model. I never do it for iOS or OSX. Miss snow leopard: selling point: 0 new features.
- cassianoleal 5y ago
  I don't have a 4k monitor but I have an ultrawide that does 144Hz. The only way I found to use it that way was via SwitchResX.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Does it make a big difference? I heard 60hz freesync would make a bigger difference than high refresh, it looked nice when I had 144hz but aside from me sliding my mouse it didn’t really change anything.

irae 5y ago

You can't really configure your car after you bought it either. Or your blender or your hair dryer. Not everything in the world needs to be configurable to be good. Yes, when moving from Windows to Mac, people miss stuff that could be configured. When moving from Mac to Windows, from Mac to Linux etc, it is always the same story. But people often miss the point that being configurable does not always means making it better necessarily. Part of configuration is to allow people to work differently, and that is good. But configuration to make it work like the competition (make Mac work like windows, or Mac work like linux) is beyond what configuration should be able to do anyway. Otherwise you end up with no consistency and a bad compromise. Even with Macs trying to offer a consistent experience, Mac apps can often behave differently. Back in the day when I used Linux I felt like many apps I needed to learn how they dealt with the most basic things like the menu locations, like window management, preferences/settings/configuration etc. Too much configuration is not healthy all the time. And Linux culture of "configure all the things" might be hurting Linux adoption itself.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
I agree, configuration is evil. I love my zero config fish shell.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  The problem with no configuration is that someone else (the vendor) configures it for you. Who doesn't necessarily have the same interests. Consider Microsoft complement destroying usability in Windows 8 just because they wanted to sell more tablets. Apple trying to lock you in ever deeper into their walled garden.