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I think your reply exemplifies his argument - you used an ipod to 'consume' media for si hours, rather than creating, which older computers may have been better

I think your reply exemplifies his argument - you used an ipod to 'consume' media for si hours, rather than creating, which older computers may have been better suited for.

ugh 15y ago
Wha? If I want to create I can. It’s never been as easy as today. You are creating a false dichotomy. The content I was consuming on my iPad – and that was my point – did not come from a central authority (no more than before when I consumed on my Laptop) and it’s enabled by the cheap tools available for content creation today. I was listening to one awesome podcast by a guy who made podcasting his job and survives (extremely successfully) from donations alone. I was browsing awesome webcomics from people who would never had a chance to make their comics accessible to as many people as they can today. I was reading awesome Harry Potter fan fiction and tales from a lawyer doing his job. All not possible only a decade (maybe two in some cases) ago. We are living in a golden ago of content creation. To be worried about tablets in that context is – sorry – crazy.
- varunsrin 15y ago
  Was the podcast created by a guy on a iPad? How about the webcomic, do you think it was done in the iPad / Android version photoshop? Was the HP fan fiction typed on a tablet keyboard? The point the OP is trying to make is not that tablets discourage production of content at a higher level. It's that companies are spending a lot of money improving consumption device /software , instead of creative devices/software It's that there is more money is creating consumption devices, and most of the R&D is going into creating better and better consumption devices, with less focus on creation better tools for production. This is however a natural state of the free market - creating consumer-oriented consumption devices is suddenly a lot more profitable than creating devices targeted and production of content, and therefore that is where we are seeing the most innovation/investment right now.
  - ugh 15y ago
    No it wasn’t. The iPad is the wrong tool for creating that stuff. But it is awesome for consumption. Argh. This is sooooo frustrating. Why does everyone believe that it’s either the iPad or nothing? That just doesn’t make any sense at all. I don’t get it.
    - sofal 15y ago
      People who otherwise wouldn't consider themselves content creators can be inspired to become such if their devices come with content-creation features. As the divide increases between content-consuming devices and content-creation devices, more and more people are going to opt for the less expensive consuming devices and just not get the other kind, as they don't anticipate in advance a desire to create. Thus the barrier for becoming a content-creator could go from "hey neat, look what I can make with this!" to having to buy a separate device first. If the creation abilities come packaged with the consuming device, more people are going to feel empowered make the easy leap, perhaps discovering a new passion in the process.
    - varunsrin 15y ago
      "The iPad is the wrong tool for creating that stuff. But it is awesome for consumption." Exactly, OP's point is that most R&D by large co's these days is focused on building consumption devices similar to the iPad. About 10 years ago, most R&D was around enterprises/PC's, and that benefited both producers & consumers of content. No one is arguing that one particular model is right - it was simply an observation of where R&D is focused these days, and what that means for producers of content.
      - ugh 15y ago
        Some of the R&D. The world is a big, big place. Tablets are not some big black hole that suck away all brainpower from all other tasks.
- crenshaw 15y ago
  Aren't all these available to people with desktop/laptop computers? Aren't there something like an order and a half magnitude more of those than tablets? And this was all possible a decade ago. There were at least 50M people with web connections a year ago.
  - ugh 15y ago
    Way of missing the point. Also: There were no podcasts and hardly any blogs a decade ago. Both exist today (in their massive numbers) because the tools for content creation and distribution have become simpler to use and cheaper.
    - crenshaw 15y ago
      But none of those things you mention has anything to do with tablets.
      - ugh 15y ago
        Yes! Exactly! Because looking only at tablets is wrong.

I think your reply exemplifies his argument - you used an ipod to 'consume' media for si hours, rather than creating, which older computers may have been better suited for.

ugh 15y ago

Wha? If I want to create I can. It’s never been as easy as today. You are creating a false dichotomy. The content I was consuming on my iPad – and that was my point – did not come from a central authority (no more than before when I consumed on my Laptop) and it’s enabled by the cheap tools available for content creation today. I was listening to one awesome podcast by a guy who made podcasting his job and survives (extremely successfully) from donations alone. I was browsing awesome webcomics from people who would never had a chance to make their comics accessible to as many people as they can today. I was reading awesome Harry Potter fan fiction and tales from a lawyer doing his job. All not possible only a decade (maybe two in some cases) ago. We are living in a golden ago of content creation. To be worried about tablets in that context is – sorry – crazy.

varunsrin 15y ago
Was the podcast created by a guy on a iPad? How about the webcomic, do you think it was done in the iPad / Android version photoshop? Was the HP fan fiction typed on a tablet keyboard? The point the OP is trying to make is not that tablets discourage production of content at a higher level. It's that companies are spending a lot of money improving consumption device /software , instead of creative devices/software It's that there is more money is creating consumption devices, and most of the R&D is going into creating better and better consumption devices, with less focus on creation better tools for production. This is however a natural state of the free market - creating consumer-oriented consumption devices is suddenly a lot more profitable than creating devices targeted and production of content, and therefore that is where we are seeing the most innovation/investment right now.
- ugh 15y ago
  No it wasn’t. The iPad is the wrong tool for creating that stuff. But it is awesome for consumption. Argh. This is sooooo frustrating. Why does everyone believe that it’s either the iPad or nothing? That just doesn’t make any sense at all. I don’t get it.
  - sofal 15y ago
    People who otherwise wouldn't consider themselves content creators can be inspired to become such if their devices come with content-creation features. As the divide increases between content-consuming devices and content-creation devices, more and more people are going to opt for the less expensive consuming devices and just not get the other kind, as they don't anticipate in advance a desire to create. Thus the barrier for becoming a content-creator could go from "hey neat, look what I can make with this!" to having to buy a separate device first. If the creation abilities come packaged with the consuming device, more people are going to feel empowered make the easy leap, perhaps discovering a new passion in the process.
  - varunsrin 15y ago
    "The iPad is the wrong tool for creating that stuff. But it is awesome for consumption." Exactly, OP's point is that most R&D by large co's these days is focused on building consumption devices similar to the iPad. About 10 years ago, most R&D was around enterprises/PC's, and that benefited both producers & consumers of content. No one is arguing that one particular model is right - it was simply an observation of where R&D is focused these days, and what that means for producers of content.
    - ugh 15y ago
      Some of the R&D. The world is a big, big place. Tablets are not some big black hole that suck away all brainpower from all other tasks.
crenshaw 15y ago
Aren't all these available to people with desktop/laptop computers? Aren't there something like an order and a half magnitude more of those than tablets? And this was all possible a decade ago. There were at least 50M people with web connections a year ago.
- ugh 15y ago
  Way of missing the point. Also: There were no podcasts and hardly any blogs a decade ago. Both exist today (in their massive numbers) because the tools for content creation and distribution have become simpler to use and cheaper.
  - crenshaw 15y ago
    But none of those things you mention has anything to do with tablets.
    - ugh 15y ago
      Yes! Exactly! Because looking only at tablets is wrong.