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Everything you 'see' is just in your mind. Aphantasia is, some people just can't make their optical qualia up willingly or their optical qualia lack the image

Everything you 'see' is just in your mind. Aphantasia is, some people just can't make their optical qualia up willingly or their optical qualia lack the image quality of their visual capacity. A lot more people are convinced, what they 'see' through their eyes is outside their mind, because they can't make it up willingly. But, there is no color outside your mind.

vinceguidry 5y ago
Not quite. Color is created in your eyes, by the rods and cones. What the mind sees comes from the eyes, and color blindness is usually caused by genetic defects causing the rods and cones to be differently sensitive than normal. Those with color blindness have had luck wearing special polarized shades turning some color frequencies into others that the rods and cones can better sense.
- Borrible 5y ago
  So, tell me, what is 'red'? Not the wavelength thingie, I mean your subjective experience of this qualia.
  - vinceguidry 5y ago
    Are you asking me about 'a' qualia, or a 'type' of qualia?
    - Borrible 5y ago
      > your subjective experience Can't be more precise. That thing you experience when you think to see it in the wild when looking at a 'red' thing. Which is probably the same when you imagine that 'red' thing. A lot of people do also dream in exactly the same way about a 'red' thing. What is 'redness' in your consciousness? And what is it outside of it?
      - vinceguidry 5y ago
        If you can't answer the question the way I asked it, then there's really no point in continuing. You're misinterpreting the qualia concept in an effort to believe a certain thing about existence. My question was aimed at isolating this misinterpretation. Qualia are individual subjective perceptions. There is no 'qualia of redness'. There is a qualia of when I perceive a particular red thing, assuming qualia exist, that is. That qualia cannot be compared or contrasted with your qualia when you see another red thing. But the instant you take that out of context, what you're dealing with is no longer qualia. There's no such thing as a 'redness' qualia. We can isolate red as a wavelength of EM radiation because of this.

vinceguidry 5y ago

Not quite. Color is created in your eyes, by the rods and cones. What the mind sees comes from the eyes, and color blindness is usually caused by genetic defects causing the rods and cones to be differently sensitive than normal. Those with color blindness have had luck wearing special polarized shades turning some color frequencies into others that the rods and cones can better sense.

Borrible 5y ago
So, tell me, what is 'red'? Not the wavelength thingie, I mean your subjective experience of this qualia.
- vinceguidry 5y ago
  Are you asking me about 'a' qualia, or a 'type' of qualia?
  - Borrible 5y ago
    > your subjective experience Can't be more precise. That thing you experience when you think to see it in the wild when looking at a 'red' thing. Which is probably the same when you imagine that 'red' thing. A lot of people do also dream in exactly the same way about a 'red' thing. What is 'redness' in your consciousness? And what is it outside of it?
    - vinceguidry 5y ago
      If you can't answer the question the way I asked it, then there's really no point in continuing. You're misinterpreting the qualia concept in an effort to believe a certain thing about existence. My question was aimed at isolating this misinterpretation. Qualia are individual subjective perceptions. There is no 'qualia of redness'. There is a qualia of when I perceive a particular red thing, assuming qualia exist, that is. That qualia cannot be compared or contrasted with your qualia when you see another red thing. But the instant you take that out of context, what you're dealing with is no longer qualia. There's no such thing as a 'redness' qualia. We can isolate red as a wavelength of EM radiation because of this.