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The Project Veritas that is famous for making up stories out of whole cloth or grossly distorting statements until they no longer resemble the actual situation?

The Project Veritas that is famous for making up stories out of whole cloth or grossly distorting statements until they no longer resemble the actual situation? Is your supposition that they have suddenly done a 180 and started telling the truth for no apparent reason? Why should I take anything that comes out of Project Veritas seriously when they have a long track record of lying or putting so much spin on a story that it flies apart?

lettergram 5y ago
Your statements are inaccurate and there’s nothing to back it up as far as I can tell. Project Veritas is currently suing everyone who makes those claims and has yet to lose. NYT in particular has done some insanely shady stuff https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvRaQk5yeao https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvRaQk5yeao Just listen to the CNN employees own words, you don’t even have to assume project veritas is doing anything. It’s pretty clear.
- jandrese 5y ago
  I'm guessing you fully trust Project Vertias's statements about their own truthfulness? https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/09/project-veritas/new-jersey-poll-worker-did-not-commit-crime-when-p/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/09/project-ve... https://www.newschannel5.com/news/fact-check-political-video-misleading https://www.newschannel5.com/news/fact-check-political-video... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/16/fact-check-project-veritas-no-proof-voter-fraud-scheme-link-ilhan-omar/3584614001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/16/fac... https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/project-veritas-amplifies-false-vaccine-information-in-latest-video/ https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/project-veritas-amplifie... https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/22a2b3a9 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/22a2b3a9 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/04/james-okeefe-undercover-sting-profile-feature-2018-218015/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/04/james-oke... https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-project-veritas-sting-fails-2017-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-project-veritas... https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/18/project-veritas-elect... https://ballotpedia.org/Project_Veritas https://ballotpedia.org/Project_Veritas It is harder to find cases where they aren't spinning bullshit. I put a huge variety of sources in here just to hammer home the fact that pretty much every time someone tries to fact check a Project Veritas story it falls apart. He is a master of the out-of-context clip and the disingenuous talking point. He doesn't care about objective reality in the least, only pushing his political position. It is hard to overstate just how shameless O'Keefe is. Only a fool would take his statements at face value.
  - lettergram 5y ago
    Everything you shared is partisan opinion pieces and some are currently named in lawsuits. Every single news outlet by necessity clips news stories. Thus far, project veritas appears better than most, but I agree not perfect. I don’t think anything linked here provides more support to your claims. Particularly as several are currently involved in defamation lawsuits and are almost entirely opinion. Literally, the argument here is the opinion of those being investigated by project veritas is that project veritas fake lol
    - jandrese 5y ago
      Just because James O'Keefe is lawsuit happy doesn't mean he is right.
      - lettergram 5y ago
        Agreed, it means the claims are disputed

lettergram 5y ago

Your statements are inaccurate and there’s nothing to back it up as far as I can tell. Project Veritas is currently suing everyone who makes those claims and has yet to lose. NYT in particular has done some insanely shady stuff https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvRaQk5yeao https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvRaQk5yeao Just listen to the CNN employees own words, you don’t even have to assume project veritas is doing anything. It’s pretty clear.

jandrese 5y ago
I'm guessing you fully trust Project Vertias's statements about their own truthfulness? https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/09/project-veritas/new-jersey-poll-worker-did-not-commit-crime-when-p/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/09/project-ve... https://www.newschannel5.com/news/fact-check-political-video-misleading https://www.newschannel5.com/news/fact-check-political-video... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/16/fact-check-project-veritas-no-proof-voter-fraud-scheme-link-ilhan-omar/3584614001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/16/fac... https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/project-veritas-amplifies-false-vaccine-information-in-latest-video/ https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/project-veritas-amplifie... https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/22a2b3a9 https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/22a2b3a9 https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/04/james-okeefe-undercover-sting-profile-feature-2018-218015/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/04/james-oke... https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-project-veritas-sting-fails-2017-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-project-veritas... https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/18/project-veritas-elect... https://ballotpedia.org/Project_Veritas https://ballotpedia.org/Project_Veritas It is harder to find cases where they aren't spinning bullshit. I put a huge variety of sources in here just to hammer home the fact that pretty much every time someone tries to fact check a Project Veritas story it falls apart. He is a master of the out-of-context clip and the disingenuous talking point. He doesn't care about objective reality in the least, only pushing his political position. It is hard to overstate just how shameless O'Keefe is. Only a fool would take his statements at face value.
- lettergram 5y ago
  Everything you shared is partisan opinion pieces and some are currently named in lawsuits. Every single news outlet by necessity clips news stories. Thus far, project veritas appears better than most, but I agree not perfect. I don’t think anything linked here provides more support to your claims. Particularly as several are currently involved in defamation lawsuits and are almost entirely opinion. Literally, the argument here is the opinion of those being investigated by project veritas is that project veritas fake lol
  - jandrese 5y ago
    Just because James O'Keefe is lawsuit happy doesn't mean he is right.
    - lettergram 5y ago
      Agreed, it means the claims are disputed