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The UK has basically indicated that it is going to be bad and are relying on boosting before the new year to blunt the impact. If that doesn't work, lock downs

by sjg007 5y ago

The UK has basically indicated that it is going to be bad and are relying on boosting before the new year to blunt the impact. If that doesn't work, lock downs are coming..

spookthesunset 5y ago
> If that doesn't work, lock downs are coming.. If they lock down again, they'll lock down every single winter from here on out. Lockdowns in a post-vaccine world are complete madness.
- sjg007 5y ago
  I dunno, masks seem pretty effective as are capacity limits. That and rapid testing before gathering seems like a pretty good plan.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    Mask and capacity limits until when? And why? What problem is being solved now? What’s the goal?
    - mrtksn 5y ago
      Why I’m sensing a tone of desire to cancel the virus? As if, not fun anymore let’s do something else kind of canceling. A few months back I was in Bulgaria, where the majority of the population is antivaxx virus deniers mask sceptics. It’s true that mask free virus free worry free life is much better, it was liberating to be in Bulgaria. However, at the same time everyone knew someone who died from covid. Much more than Turkey, where I have been since the start of the pandemic. The situation we are in is not a choice. The virus is real, the damage is real and we can’t simply refuse to play. We can but a lot of people will die and I’m not convinced that this is the way to go. I bet, when the things start getting real with other issues like the global warming, the inconveniences will create similar reactions. I appreciate the drive, the desire for freedom and convince but these things happen to people all the time when they fail to address the slow moving issues beforehand.
      - spookthesunset 5y ago
        The situation we are in is absolutely a choice. We can choose right now today to move on from Covid. All we have to do is decide to stop being afraid of it. Accept the risk and move on. Everything we’ve done in the last two years is not caused by the virus but our reaction to the virus. PS: eventually even the most hardcore fearful will have no choice but to move on. Omicron is not the last variant and Covid will be with us forever. Expecting every member of society to treat Covid as if it is the only problem from here on out is not going to happen. Get your vaccines. Stop being scared and move on. It’s quite literally as simple as that.
        mrtksn 5y ago
        Do you understand that your level of fear is irrelevant from virus perspective? Sars-cov-2 doesn’t care about your feelings. We will eventually move on, the idea is to do it with least damage possible. People moved on from the plague, the black death ve will move on. It’s just doesn’t need to lose so many people in the name of conspiracy theories and inconvenience. The handling of the situation is different everywhere. It’s a management issue, not really a virus issue.
        spookthesunset 5y ago
        > Do you understand that your level of fear is irrelevant from virus perspective? Sars-cov-2 doesn’t care about your feelings. The way you talk scares me more than the virus. It is so authoritarian and creepy. So many of my tech worker colleagues talk the same way. It’s abuse. People that talk your way are the kinds of people that commit grave atrocities in the name of some cause you are 100% bought into. You do not have the moral high ground you think you do. Stop now before you let very evil people use you to commit very bad things to your fellow humans. You’ve already allowed your government to destroy our kids, caused old folks to die alone in care homes, gutted the working class, transferred enormous amounts of wealth to the richest in society, and divided the population in a way never seen before. You are committing great evil and you foolishly believe you are doing it for a proper cause. You aren’t. Covid ends when you personally decide it does. Covid has no feelings. It’s a virus. It does virus stuff. It’s a part of nature just like earthquakes or tornadoes. We have very little control over it. Accept that and move on. End your fear and Covid is no longer a problem. It is literally as easy as that. Nobody has to “accept” the virus requires them to sacrifice their very short amount of time on this earth unless they allow it to. And anybody who tells them otherwise is not to be trusted at all, for they have nobodies interest in mind.

by sjg007 5y ago

The UK has basically indicated that it is going to be bad and are relying on boosting before the new year to blunt the impact. If that doesn't work, lock downs are coming..

spookthesunset 5y ago

> If that doesn't work, lock downs are coming.. If they lock down again, they'll lock down every single winter from here on out. Lockdowns in a post-vaccine world are complete madness.

sjg007 5y ago
I dunno, masks seem pretty effective as are capacity limits. That and rapid testing before gathering seems like a pretty good plan.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  Mask and capacity limits until when? And why? What problem is being solved now? What’s the goal?
  - mrtksn 5y ago
    Why I’m sensing a tone of desire to cancel the virus? As if, not fun anymore let’s do something else kind of canceling. A few months back I was in Bulgaria, where the majority of the population is antivaxx virus deniers mask sceptics. It’s true that mask free virus free worry free life is much better, it was liberating to be in Bulgaria. However, at the same time everyone knew someone who died from covid. Much more than Turkey, where I have been since the start of the pandemic. The situation we are in is not a choice. The virus is real, the damage is real and we can’t simply refuse to play. We can but a lot of people will die and I’m not convinced that this is the way to go. I bet, when the things start getting real with other issues like the global warming, the inconveniences will create similar reactions. I appreciate the drive, the desire for freedom and convince but these things happen to people all the time when they fail to address the slow moving issues beforehand.
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      The situation we are in is absolutely a choice. We can choose right now today to move on from Covid. All we have to do is decide to stop being afraid of it. Accept the risk and move on. Everything we’ve done in the last two years is not caused by the virus but our reaction to the virus. PS: eventually even the most hardcore fearful will have no choice but to move on. Omicron is not the last variant and Covid will be with us forever. Expecting every member of society to treat Covid as if it is the only problem from here on out is not going to happen. Get your vaccines. Stop being scared and move on. It’s quite literally as simple as that.
      - mrtksn 5y ago
        Do you understand that your level of fear is irrelevant from virus perspective? Sars-cov-2 doesn’t care about your feelings. We will eventually move on, the idea is to do it with least damage possible. People moved on from the plague, the black death ve will move on. It’s just doesn’t need to lose so many people in the name of conspiracy theories and inconvenience. The handling of the situation is different everywhere. It’s a management issue, not really a virus issue.
        spookthesunset 5y ago
        > Do you understand that your level of fear is irrelevant from virus perspective? Sars-cov-2 doesn’t care about your feelings. The way you talk scares me more than the virus. It is so authoritarian and creepy. So many of my tech worker colleagues talk the same way. It’s abuse. People that talk your way are the kinds of people that commit grave atrocities in the name of some cause you are 100% bought into. You do not have the moral high ground you think you do. Stop now before you let very evil people use you to commit very bad things to your fellow humans. You’ve already allowed your government to destroy our kids, caused old folks to die alone in care homes, gutted the working class, transferred enormous amounts of wealth to the richest in society, and divided the population in a way never seen before. You are committing great evil and you foolishly believe you are doing it for a proper cause. You aren’t. Covid ends when you personally decide it does. Covid has no feelings. It’s a virus. It does virus stuff. It’s a part of nature just like earthquakes or tornadoes. We have very little control over it. Accept that and move on. End your fear and Covid is no longer a problem. It is literally as easy as that. Nobody has to “accept” the virus requires them to sacrifice their very short amount of time on this earth unless they allow it to. And anybody who tells them otherwise is not to be trusted at all, for they have nobodies interest in mind.