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Before we all jump over Apple, this could just be one guy going somewhat 'rogue', and forgetting he's a retired police officer, and not an Apple Investigator in

Before we all jump over Apple, this could just be one guy going somewhat 'rogue', and forgetting he's a retired police officer, and not an Apple Investigator in the private sector. If what is written is true, this investigator likely has a lot of explaining to do. The conspiracist in me thinks the SF police dept worked with him, but didn't want it on the record for some reason, and will just shuffle the investigation under the rug.

jm4 15y ago
The article specifically says that 6 people are alleged to have shown up with badges, claiming to be with the police. So it can't be explained away as one old nutjob reliving the glory days of busting down doors and roughing up perps. That said, we do need more information. The entire basis for this story is one person's account and the actual police saying they had nothing to do with it. The only corroborating evidence is a phone number that the "police" left that belongs to an Apple employee. The again, who knows how he actually got the number. It's too early to jump all over Apple based on so little evidence, but the whole thing sounds pretty shady. If it does turn out they did this they need to suffer.
- jwcooper 15y ago
  Good points, not sure why I disregarded the 6 other people at the door. Although, it is a bit odd that after all this, he (Calderon) still hasn't reached out to the SFPD, as indicated in the SF Weekly's latest updates.
  - ktsmith 15y ago
    He may have simply thought he didn't need to do anything since the police are obviously aware of the situation.
starpilot 15y ago
Oh geez. The "few bad apples" defense. The iPhone 5 is such a white-hot priority at Apple, I'd be surprised if this investigation somehow did not shoot up like lightning through the chain of command.
- jwcooper 15y ago
  Yea, it's pretty weak, and I'm sure the executives gave some ultimatums to the security team. Who knows though, when bonuses are on the line people will do some crazy things.
  - bugsy 15y ago
    I agree. Lost iPhone 5 is a really big issue, the last lost model was international news. There can be little doubt that Cook was briefed on it. I seriously doubt he had no opinion about it voiced in that meeting. Furthermore, someone at Apple at some point in the past decided they needed a private police force with badges and uniforms that looks like real police, and recruited from "retired" police (how can one be 26 and retired anyway). That's not a casual decision by some middle manager, that's another CEO level decision, and that one probably came from Jobs.
    - pyre 15y ago
      > how can one be 26 and retired anyway 26 years of experience on the force != 26 years old ... unless he was holding a badge out of the womb.
      - bugsy 15y ago
        Ah, thanks for that correction, I mistakenly read "I am a 26 year retired law enforcement professional" as "I am a 26 year old retired law enforcement professional".

jm4 15y ago

The article specifically says that 6 people are alleged to have shown up with badges, claiming to be with the police. So it can't be explained away as one old nutjob reliving the glory days of busting down doors and roughing up perps. That said, we do need more information. The entire basis for this story is one person's account and the actual police saying they had nothing to do with it. The only corroborating evidence is a phone number that the "police" left that belongs to an Apple employee. The again, who knows how he actually got the number. It's too early to jump all over Apple based on so little evidence, but the whole thing sounds pretty shady. If it does turn out they did this they need to suffer.

jwcooper 15y ago
Good points, not sure why I disregarded the 6 other people at the door. Although, it is a bit odd that after all this, he (Calderon) still hasn't reached out to the SFPD, as indicated in the SF Weekly's latest updates.
- ktsmith 15y ago
  He may have simply thought he didn't need to do anything since the police are obviously aware of the situation.

starpilot 15y ago

Oh geez. The "few bad apples" defense. The iPhone 5 is such a white-hot priority at Apple, I'd be surprised if this investigation somehow did not shoot up like lightning through the chain of command.

jwcooper 15y ago
Yea, it's pretty weak, and I'm sure the executives gave some ultimatums to the security team. Who knows though, when bonuses are on the line people will do some crazy things.
- bugsy 15y ago
  I agree. Lost iPhone 5 is a really big issue, the last lost model was international news. There can be little doubt that Cook was briefed on it. I seriously doubt he had no opinion about it voiced in that meeting. Furthermore, someone at Apple at some point in the past decided they needed a private police force with badges and uniforms that looks like real police, and recruited from "retired" police (how can one be 26 and retired anyway). That's not a casual decision by some middle manager, that's another CEO level decision, and that one probably came from Jobs.
  - pyre 15y ago
    > how can one be 26 and retired anyway 26 years of experience on the force != 26 years old ... unless he was holding a badge out of the womb.
    - bugsy 15y ago
      Ah, thanks for that correction, I mistakenly read "I am a 26 year retired law enforcement professional" as "I am a 26 year old retired law enforcement professional".