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What's going on with Apple and shady legal dealings recently? It appears they are faking evidence in European courts; that should be a criminal offense. It appe

by cryptoz 15y ago

What's going on with Apple and shady legal dealings recently? It appears they are faking evidence in European courts; that should be a criminal offense. It appears they are impersonating police officers - that IS a criminal offense. Is the media I'm reading biased? Is this all actually happening? What turned Apple into a crime or near-crime committing business? This is all very weird.

dmethvin 15y ago
Anthony Colon worked for the San Jose Police Department for 26 years and retired in 2010 to take a job with Apple doing security. So I wonder if he'll argue that he told Calderon something to the effect of "I'm (mumble)was with the police" and was simply misunderstood? I don't think it will work. Also, although it doesn't excuse their behavior, Calderon was crazy for letting them search without a warrant.
- starpilot 15y ago
  The fact that Colon deleted his LinkedIn profile very recently is a huge red flag.
eykanal 15y ago
I think the likelihood of this story being even close to 100% true is very remote. Yes, Apple likes to keep their secrets closely guarded. Yes, they go to extreme legal lengths, including intimidating the press (and early-access developers), takedown notices to blogs, and all other sorts of tight-lipped requirements on their employees. This claim, however, this is so far beyond the normal realm of large company behavior that it's absurd. It's most likely that a good portion of what was reported is inaccurate.
- extension 15y ago
  The orders didn't necessarily come from the top. Could have been this ex-cop guy taking matters into his own hands.
- jonknee 15y ago
  Looks like it's not so far fetched, the SFPD has now admitted that they stood by while Apple staff searched the home. The only remaining piece is if they identified themselves properly. Even without more information, this is extraordinarily embarrassing for both the SFPD and Apple. What other companies get policing privileges?
itg 15y ago
Well we should wait and find out the truth, apparently SFPD is investigating this right now, instead of jumping to conclusions and sensationalizing everything as the tech media loves to do to get every last page hit possible. As for the European court thing, the judge had pics and the tablets in front of him so that turned out to be a whole bunch of nothing, they didn't decide the case on those drawings.
- sliverstorm 15y ago
  Just because fraud in court didn't swing a case doesn't mean it wasn't fraud.
trotsky 15y ago
I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that if this did happen it was probably a case of an individual/team going too far and not some shift in Apple writ large. If you saw a night manager at Wendy's punch someone in the face you wouldn't assume it was corporate policy.
- jonknee 15y ago
  Though considering who it was, it would be more like the head of security for Wendy's corporate punching someone while investigating a theft.

by cryptoz 15y ago

dmethvin 15y ago

Anthony Colon worked for the San Jose Police Department for 26 years and retired in 2010 to take a job with Apple doing security. So I wonder if he'll argue that he told Calderon something to the effect of "I'm (mumble)was with the police" and was simply misunderstood? I don't think it will work. Also, although it doesn't excuse their behavior, Calderon was crazy for letting them search without a warrant.

starpilot 15y ago
The fact that Colon deleted his LinkedIn profile very recently is a huge red flag.

eykanal 15y ago

I think the likelihood of this story being even close to 100% true is very remote. Yes, Apple likes to keep their secrets closely guarded. Yes, they go to extreme legal lengths, including intimidating the press (and early-access developers), takedown notices to blogs, and all other sorts of tight-lipped requirements on their employees. This claim, however, this is so far beyond the normal realm of large company behavior that it's absurd. It's most likely that a good portion of what was reported is inaccurate.

extension 15y ago
The orders didn't necessarily come from the top. Could have been this ex-cop guy taking matters into his own hands.
jonknee 15y ago
Looks like it's not so far fetched, the SFPD has now admitted that they stood by while Apple staff searched the home. The only remaining piece is if they identified themselves properly. Even without more information, this is extraordinarily embarrassing for both the SFPD and Apple. What other companies get policing privileges?

itg 15y ago

Well we should wait and find out the truth, apparently SFPD is investigating this right now, instead of jumping to conclusions and sensationalizing everything as the tech media loves to do to get every last page hit possible. As for the European court thing, the judge had pics and the tablets in front of him so that turned out to be a whole bunch of nothing, they didn't decide the case on those drawings.

sliverstorm 15y ago
Just because fraud in court didn't swing a case doesn't mean it wasn't fraud.

trotsky 15y ago

I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that if this did happen it was probably a case of an individual/team going too far and not some shift in Apple writ large. If you saw a night manager at Wendy's punch someone in the face you wouldn't assume it was corporate policy.

jonknee 15y ago
Though considering who it was, it would be more like the head of security for Wendy's corporate punching someone while investigating a theft.