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> There were no guns Yes there were. Three examples of people charged: > Lonnie Coffman of Alabama: Police found multiple firearms and weapons in Coffman’s po

> There were no guns Yes there were. Three examples of people charged: > Lonnie Coffman of Alabama: Police found multiple firearms and weapons in Coffman’s possession. Coffman’s truck, which he had parked in the vicinity of the Capitol on the morning of Jan. 6, was packed with weaponry including a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun, each loaded, according to court documents. In addition, the truck held hundreds of rounds of ammunition, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, a crossbow with bolts, machetes, camouflage smoke devices, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails. […] > Guy Reffitt of Texas: Reffitt was charged with bringing a handgun onto Capitol grounds. Court documents showed that Reffitt, reported in court documents to be a member of the militia group Three Percenters, told his family he brought his gun with him and that he and others "stormed the Capitol." > Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland: Alberts brought his handgun onto Capitol grounds. An officer saw that Alberts had a gun on his hip and alerted fellow officers. When Alberts tried to flee, officers detained him and recovered the loaded handgun along with a separate magazine. * https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/07/14/some-jan-6-capitol-rioters-were-armed-guns-documents-show/7963993002/ https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/202... Another: > According to court documents, Alberts was arrested after he tried to flee police officers while leaving the Capitol grounds. Investigators said that three officers tackled him and found he was carrying a loaded 9mm handgun, 25 rounds of ammunition, a gas mask, pocket-knife, first aid kit and one military meal. > Alberts faces four federal charges: carrying a gun at the Capitol, unlawful entry onto restricted grounds, carrying a gun without a license, and possessing a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Alberts' lawyer declined to comment on the charges. * https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/politics/capitol-insurrection-loaded-handgun/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/politics/capitol-insurrection... From an actual court filing: > Based on the foregoing, I submit that there is probable cause to believe that MEREDITH violated 18 U.S.C. § 875(c), which makes it a crime to transmit in interstate commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another. There is also probable cause to believe that MEREDITH violated 7 D.C. Code § 2502.01(a) and 2506.01(a)(3) , which make it a crime to possess a firearm in Washington, DC without being the holder of a valid registration certificate, and to possess ammunition unless it is for a firearm that is property registered. * PDF: https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353311/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353311/download > there was no centralized organization to indicate an insurrection No centralized organization is needed. From case law (in an insurance case of all things): > The district court held that the word insurrection means '(1) a violent uprising by a group or movement (2) acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers.' 368 F. Supp. at 1124. * https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/505/989/453507/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/505... Movements do not need necessarily need leaders: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaderless_resistance * https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/11/leaderless-protests-around-world/602194/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/11/le... * https://www.csis.org/analysis/age-leaderless-revolution https://www.csis.org/analysis/age-leaderless-revolution

edmcnulty101 5y ago
Three protestors had guns all of which were in peoples vehicles or 'on capitol grounds'. Were any proven to be brought INTO the capitol? WOW SUCH INSURRECTION What you're doing is literally the definition of sensationalism. You're overinflating statistically insignificant details to create an inaccurate narrative to promote your political agenda.
- throw0101a 5y ago
  > So you're saying out of thousands upon thousands of protestors three had guns. You were saying there "were no guns". I am saying there were. One of these is an accurate statement. > WOW SUCH INSURRECTION. Firearms are not necessarily for something to be classified as an insurrection. Firearms aren't even necessary if you want to have a revolution: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution > Were they overthrowing the constituted government or protesting? From the court filing above: > On January 7, 2021, the FBI received information that CLEVELAND GROVER MEREDITH, JR. (hereinafter “MEREDITH”) had recently sent a text message in which he wrote, “Thinking about heading over to Pelosi CUNT’s speech and putting a bullet in her noggin on Live TV [purple devil emoji].” Additionally, Agents learned that MEREDITH was likely in the Washington, DC area, and that he allegedly had firearms and ammunition. * https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353311/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353311/download To me, personally, threatening to kill someone would fall under a "violent" label, and so would lean more insurrection. There could have been other people at the event that did not have violent intentions and simply wanted to voice their grievances, and that would lean more towards protest.
  - edmcnulty101 5y ago
    You're leaning ALOT on the opinion of ONE guy this CLEVELAND GROVER MEREDITH who to represent the view and motivations of the entire group of protestors. Do you also think all Arabic people are terrorists?
    - throw0101a 5y ago

edmcnulty101 5y ago

Three protestors had guns all of which were in peoples vehicles or 'on capitol grounds'. Were any proven to be brought INTO the capitol? WOW SUCH INSURRECTION What you're doing is literally the definition of sensationalism. You're overinflating statistically insignificant details to create an inaccurate narrative to promote your political agenda.

throw0101a 5y ago
> So you're saying out of thousands upon thousands of protestors three had guns. You were saying there "were no guns". I am saying there were. One of these is an accurate statement. > WOW SUCH INSURRECTION. Firearms are not necessarily for something to be classified as an insurrection. Firearms aren't even necessary if you want to have a revolution: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution > Were they overthrowing the constituted government or protesting? From the court filing above: > On January 7, 2021, the FBI received information that CLEVELAND GROVER MEREDITH, JR. (hereinafter “MEREDITH”) had recently sent a text message in which he wrote, “Thinking about heading over to Pelosi CUNT’s speech and putting a bullet in her noggin on Live TV [purple devil emoji].” Additionally, Agents learned that MEREDITH was likely in the Washington, DC area, and that he allegedly had firearms and ammunition. * https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353311/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1353311/download To me, personally, threatening to kill someone would fall under a "violent" label, and so would lean more insurrection. There could have been other people at the event that did not have violent intentions and simply wanted to voice their grievances, and that would lean more towards protest.
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  You're leaning ALOT on the opinion of ONE guy this CLEVELAND GROVER MEREDITH who to represent the view and motivations of the entire group of protestors. Do you also think all Arabic people are terrorists?
  - throw0101a 5y ago