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> I would suspect that most people who are were already vulnerable have already passed or built immunity if the virus is equally dangerous, resulting in a lower

by tn890 5y ago

> I would suspect that most people who are were already vulnerable have already passed or built immunity if the virus is equally dangerous, resulting in a lower than equal death rate despite equivalent risk. You are forgetting about the most vulnerable group of all: immunosuppressed people. They cannot mount a sufficient immune response, in severe immunosuppression like after a transplant event months or years after. In some cases the covid mortality for these people can approach 40% for young adults. We have to be mindful of people like this when thinking about dropping mask mandates and such. Or "whoever's not vaccinated dies of their own fault". Not 100% true. We as a society must protect those most vulnerable.

AustinDev 5y ago
This may come off wrong but... COVID is not the first virus. Immunosuppressed people for all of human history have been falling victim to the common cold, the flu and other infections most humans can deal with safely. You can't stop the world economy and the benefit that brings to the majority of society to save a fraction of a percentage point of the population that is Immunocompromised.
- tn890 5y ago
  Wearing a mask in a supermarket does not "stop the world economy". Americans are borderline insane with the mask mandate
  - jkubicek 5y ago
    Americans are full-on insane with their opposition to mask mandates.
- mitigating 5y ago
  How does wearing a mask hurt the economy?
  - vkou 5y ago
    This may be a simple answer to a simple question - but it doesn't.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    I personally go out a heck of a lot less with these insane mask mandates. I hate wearing a mask. Plus many of these people arguing to keep them around forever forget that actual living humans work at these businesses. It takes a lot of privilege to suggest employees should continue wearing masks forever to make a small set of extremely fearful customers feel "safe". I bet 99% of the "pro mask" people on are not in a place requiring them to wear a mask 40 hours a week.
  - alex-korr 5y ago
    Try having a 3 year old child with a speech impediment that has to wear a mask in childcare for 6 hours a day. Does wonders for their ability to communicate.
wonderwonder 5y ago
I live in a state where mask mandates are essentially gone. Very few people wear masks here and they are not required in schools so only ~5% of kids are wearing them at my children's elementary school. Everything seems pretty good so far, no marked rise in cases and almost no cases in my kids school over the last year, maybe 25 total, all mild. I am in no way saying masks don't work, in fact I think that they do. With that said, I have not worn a mask in a long time, I am fully vaccinated including a booster and essentially figure that is enough. I work from home so if I get covid its going to be from my kids. "We have to be mindful of people like this when thinking about dropping mask mandates and such." Not arguing with you, just genuinely interested on how long you would advocate for mask mandates? Would you be willing to accept mask mandates in perpetuity?
- sjwalter 5y ago
  > I am in no way saying masks don't work, in fact I think that they do. This is still so hilarious to me. It's pretty obvious that some masks work, that is, n95 or whatever actual respirator masks. It's pretty obvious that other masks don't work at all, that is, 99.99% of masks worn by the public at large.
  - mitigating 5y ago
    " It's pretty obvious that other masks don't work at all" So a N95 mask works and covering your mouth with a bandana has no effect at all? Not even 10%?
    - adolph 5y ago
      I was putting on two N95s until someone said three was three times as effective so I started wearing three, then one day I did the math myself and don’tcha know, 95% of 95% of 95% is 86%! So I’m back to one mask now, underneath my motorcycle helmet.
  - roywiggins 5y ago
    Surgical masks probably help on a population level. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-mask...
unmole 5y ago
What were these people doing every flu season?

by tn890 5y ago

AustinDev 5y ago

This may come off wrong but... COVID is not the first virus. Immunosuppressed people for all of human history have been falling victim to the common cold, the flu and other infections most humans can deal with safely. You can't stop the world economy and the benefit that brings to the majority of society to save a fraction of a percentage point of the population that is Immunocompromised.

tn890 5y ago
Wearing a mask in a supermarket does not "stop the world economy". Americans are borderline insane with the mask mandate
- jkubicek 5y ago
  Americans are full-on insane with their opposition to mask mandates.
mitigating 5y ago
How does wearing a mask hurt the economy?
- vkou 5y ago
  This may be a simple answer to a simple question - but it doesn't.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  I personally go out a heck of a lot less with these insane mask mandates. I hate wearing a mask. Plus many of these people arguing to keep them around forever forget that actual living humans work at these businesses. It takes a lot of privilege to suggest employees should continue wearing masks forever to make a small set of extremely fearful customers feel "safe". I bet 99% of the "pro mask" people on are not in a place requiring them to wear a mask 40 hours a week.
- alex-korr 5y ago
  Try having a 3 year old child with a speech impediment that has to wear a mask in childcare for 6 hours a day. Does wonders for their ability to communicate.

wonderwonder 5y ago

I live in a state where mask mandates are essentially gone. Very few people wear masks here and they are not required in schools so only ~5% of kids are wearing them at my children's elementary school. Everything seems pretty good so far, no marked rise in cases and almost no cases in my kids school over the last year, maybe 25 total, all mild. I am in no way saying masks don't work, in fact I think that they do. With that said, I have not worn a mask in a long time, I am fully vaccinated including a booster and essentially figure that is enough. I work from home so if I get covid its going to be from my kids. "We have to be mindful of people like this when thinking about dropping mask mandates and such." Not arguing with you, just genuinely interested on how long you would advocate for mask mandates? Would you be willing to accept mask mandates in perpetuity?

sjwalter 5y ago
> I am in no way saying masks don't work, in fact I think that they do. This is still so hilarious to me. It's pretty obvious that some masks work, that is, n95 or whatever actual respirator masks. It's pretty obvious that other masks don't work at all, that is, 99.99% of masks worn by the public at large.
- mitigating 5y ago
  " It's pretty obvious that other masks don't work at all" So a N95 mask works and covering your mouth with a bandana has no effect at all? Not even 10%?
  - adolph 5y ago
    I was putting on two N95s until someone said three was three times as effective so I started wearing three, then one day I did the math myself and don’tcha know, 95% of 95% of 95% is 86%! So I’m back to one mask now, underneath my motorcycle helmet.
- roywiggins 5y ago
  Surgical masks probably help on a population level. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-mask...

unmole 5y ago

What were these people doing every flu season?