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It seems like people that are highly engaged in online conversations do so because they, consciously or not, think their contributions will pull the universe to
by nefitty 5y ago
It seems like people that are highly engaged in online conversations do so because they, consciously or not, think their contributions will pull the universe toward some goal. That goal might be "truth", "freedom", "absurdity", etc. (Uncovering those goals sounds like a really fun project.)
I think some of it also comes from status needs. Specifically, dominance.
I don't understand the lurker mindset whatsoever. It has to be how most people interact with the internet though, otherwise there would be 10's of thousands of comments on every post here. Ever since I started using the internet as a little kid I've felt the need to toss my thoughts into the cyber stream. I think all the word games I've played with other people online have truly made me a multitude.
All that is opposed to real life interactions. In real life, people sometimes just sit next to each other and occasionally share thoughts. It's a lot more like chat rooms instead of like social media. In a chat room, the facets of an individual are more prominent, meaning, as the chat continues, you witness how a person reasons through their ideas and feelings. Maybe he's a climate skeptic but oh hey, you love my favorite band, what!
The above multi-facetedness of irl and chat interaction is in contrast to this, what we're engaging in now. This comment I'm writing is an expression of a microscopic slice of time in my life and thoughts in my brain. But it's now reified. People can come back to it 10 years from now and play with it in their heads. I might be dead by then, or I might be a fascist or I might have become a Zen monk. The new eyes sipping my words have no clue, little context, of who I was an hour or a day ago, let alone a decade since.
No wonder we stumble into toxicity on social media. Not only are we probably trying to prove or achieve something, but its asynchronous nature causes weird second-order effects. Millions of people can read a Facebook post written in a fit of rage and fear with a migraine ripping through the body of the author at 3 in the morning, but suddenly, that psychologically, philosophically, sociologically, cosmically absolutely insignificant moment could cause ripples throughout the entire world. We're built by evolution to play joyous semantic games with each other. With social media we're trying to do the same, except our innocent flourishes are all punctuated with grenades and nuclear bombs.
Anyways, those are my thoughts on that. I'm very happy to hear that you found good people to share your esteem and friendship with. That's the dopest shit.
- prox 5y agoThanks for those insights, you raise some good points and food for thought.
- bulochka 5y ago> I don't understand the lurker mindset whatsoever. It has to be how most people interact with the internet though, otherwise there would be 10's of thousands of comments on every post here. I, for example, simply did not have any interesting thoughts to share most of the time and didn't bother commenting when I did have some. But you just changed my attitude towards that. Thanks! I even created an account here :)
- not1ofU 5y agoI am probably going back to lukering to be honest. I post in good faith, although sometimes I make stupid jokes and probably deserve the responses. But, it sucks when you put time into a comment and it gets trashed to hell with no responses telling you why.
- nefitty 5y agoHN is the hardest forum. People smell bullshit a mile away, everyone is super smart and informed, humor is suspect. I've never taken breaks from Reddit due to dejection. I've taken dozens of breaks from HN due to dejection... It does really hurt to get downvoted in a community of people you admire lol If you think the convos are worth it, fuck it! Let the downvotes flow. Make it a game. But if it is causing you any sort of distress, there's other places online people will eagerly welcome you to.
- not1ofU 5y agoThanks man. I dont do social media at all. I signed up here not too long ago. I have lurked here for a long time and learnt so much, decided it was time to take part. I have thought about not giving a shit and "letting the downvotes flow", but then I would become the kind of poster I would not want to read either. and that Dang chap has lot more to deal with, than me getting butthurt. Cheers though, I do appreciate it.