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Quote: The study by Discovery Health, South Africa’s largest health insurer, of 211,000 positive coronavirus cases, of which 78,000 were attributed to omicron,
by richardatlarge 5y ago
Quote: The study by Discovery Health, South Africa’s largest health insurer, of 211,000 positive coronavirus cases, of which 78,000 were attributed to omicron, showed that risk of hospital admissions among adults who contracted covid-19 was 29 percent lower than in the initial pandemic wave that emerged in March 2020.
- umpalumpaaa 5y agoMaybe it is lower because it is the second infection some had.
- richardatlarge 5y agoWouldn’t that be inconsistent with the other, related data: Quote: “National data show an exponential increase in both new infections and test positivity rates during the first three weeks of this wave, indicating a highly transmissible variant with rapid community spread of infection.”
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- croes 5y agoMaybe "new infection" doesn't mean first infection.
- giantg2 5y agoOr they were vaccinated
- elsherbini 5y agoSouth Africa has <25% vaccintion rate. "South Africa has a better vaccination rate than most countries on the continent: Just under one-quarter of the population has been fully vaccinated" [1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/28/world/africa/south-africa-omicron-vaccination.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/28/world/africa/south-africa...
- ageitgey 5y agoFor what it's worth, the vaccination rate in South Africa is low. It's only around 25% for the original course with little to no boosters done.
- vkou 5y agoEdit: double post, reference edited in above.
- tylerscott 5y agoSource?
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- vkou 5y agoSecond infections, on average, have slightly worse outcomes then first infections among the unvaccinated. https://jim.bmj.com/content/69/6/1253 https://jim.bmj.com/content/69/6/1253 It's a small sample, but it was done on data available in 2020, which was before vaccines were available.
- dsizzle 5y agoThat link shows most (69%) have similar outcomes. 68.8% -- 19% had worse symptoms and 12.5% had milder symptoms. Small sample size, but even similar result is somewhat surprising -- I would've thought the 2nd infection would be weaker.
- rich_sasha 5y agoWorth bearing in mind, 19% -> 3 patients, 12.5% -> 2 patients.
- dsizzle 5y agoIndeed, small sample size!
- dsizzle 5y agoWent looking for later studies with larger population sizes and found this review https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2049080121010803 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S204908012... It's not that much larger -- I guess reinfections are hard to find -- but surprisingly this found that ICU admission was higher for reinfections.
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- raphaelj 5y agoCould it be because we just got slightly better at treating Covid before hospitalization?
- simonh 5y agoHow do we treat Covid before hospitalisation? I just caught it at the weekend and feeling pretty crappy. I'm not aware of any particular treatment I should be taking.
- QuarterReptile 5y agoThis is another problem of the modal Western approach. Few people have any knowledge of mitigating strategies or medications because we've moved so aggressively to eradicate discussion of those things.
- simonh 5y agoWe have entire industries and research institutions funded to the tune of billons of dollars doing exactly that, using the very latest technology and scientific techniques. If there were effective treatment strategies that were easily discoverable, It'd have been patented, clinically trialed and be available from a counter near you at an affordable price extremely quickly. If it was cheap or safe enough, whole foods and such places would have shelves full of it. Capitalism is pretty good at that sort of thing, just look at all the vaccines we got in less than a year.
- vkou 5y agoNo, what we've done is that some parts of our press have denounced shilling of snake oil that doesn't work. There's no shortage of that shilling still taking place, though. And as for knowledge, step into a hospital, and you'll see plenty of medications being used to treat actual cases of COVID. Doctors don't just put an oxygen mask on your face, and wait for you to die. You'll find a bit more knowledge there than you will in a deraged InfoWars rant, or a Joe Rogan podcast. Unfortunately, that knowledge doesn't have 190 million monthly listeners. [1] [1] If the most popular podcast[2] in America is your definition of 'eradicating' discussion, it's certainly an odd one. [2] Or, if you're looking for variety in your media, you could always tune in to AM radio. Or the biggest television news syndicate in the world.