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“ Normally, 7 percent of a server’s food-and-beverage sales at Oven & Tap are automatically deducted out of their paychecks to pay those people, while tips are

“ Normally, 7 percent of a server’s food-and-beverage sales at Oven & Tap are automatically deducted out of their paychecks to pay those people, while tips are left untouched, her lawyer” This is nuts, this can’t be normal. They deduct wages based on sales? So sell more, get paid less!? Edit: As someone outside the US (in the UK) it’s seeing stuff like this that makes me realise how the “gig culture” type statups took off over there and have spread around the world. This would literally not be legal in the UK.

sct202 5y ago
Or if you don't get tipped, the server still has to pay the 7% of sales. So it sounds like the restaurant was trying to shove all the risk on to the server and also take the upside of the generous tip.
hirundo 5y ago
Only if tips average less than 7 percent.
- samwillis 5y ago
  If someone doesn’t tip (for any reason, forgot/foreign/unknowledgable) the server themselves pays for 7% of the meal… call me crazy but that shouldn't be legal.
  - hirundo 5y ago
    It seems like a reasonable compromise to share tips with the back of the house, without the effort and degredation involved in tracking exactly who tipped how much to whom. Nothing's perfect.
    - samwillis 5y ago
      Well take the 7% from the tips not the wage then.
      - hirundo 5y ago
        Then you're back to counting the tips. You add labor all around, and have to make sure that the wait staff isn't holding back, degrading everyone.
        saikia81 5y ago
        in all industry I have worked, including being a waiter in europe, I have never seen people treat/talk about workers this way. what a low level of trust
        samwillis 5y ago
        Then just get rid of tips, add 20% to your prices, pay your staff properly and manage them. If they perform badly train them better, promote and give pay rises to the best staff. If you really wanted to have a bonus system based on customer feedback. You know, the way normal business work.

sct202 5y ago

Or if you don't get tipped, the server still has to pay the 7% of sales. So it sounds like the restaurant was trying to shove all the risk on to the server and also take the upside of the generous tip.

hirundo 5y ago

Only if tips average less than 7 percent.

samwillis 5y ago
If someone doesn’t tip (for any reason, forgot/foreign/unknowledgable) the server themselves pays for 7% of the meal… call me crazy but that shouldn't be legal.
- hirundo 5y ago
  It seems like a reasonable compromise to share tips with the back of the house, without the effort and degredation involved in tracking exactly who tipped how much to whom. Nothing's perfect.
  - samwillis 5y ago
    Well take the 7% from the tips not the wage then.
    - hirundo 5y ago
      Then you're back to counting the tips. You add labor all around, and have to make sure that the wait staff isn't holding back, degrading everyone.
      - saikia81 5y ago
        in all industry I have worked, including being a waiter in europe, I have never seen people treat/talk about workers this way. what a low level of trust
      - samwillis 5y ago
        Then just get rid of tips, add 20% to your prices, pay your staff properly and manage them. If they perform badly train them better, promote and give pay rises to the best staff. If you really wanted to have a bonus system based on customer feedback. You know, the way normal business work.