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How this is not blatantly the issue blows my mind. I guess CCP international propaganda campaigns are working.

throwaway4good 5y ago
It is a part of the industrial policy of China that broadly raises living standard and wealth of the society. It also opens up the Chinese society for foreign influence and sends millions abroad for studies. The idea that this is to "increase the power of the CCP" is only true in sense that economic growth may increase the ruling party's popularity. In classic dictatorship thinking sending your best students abroad and accepting foreign educators is the last thing you would want to do.
- defaultprimate 5y ago
  Sending your best abroad while you hold their family at gunpoint locally is how you cultivate absolute loyalty and subvert adversarial thought and nations. The best way to defeat your enemy is to understand them. That's why you consistently see Chinese born, US citizens with decades of time in the states prosecuted for espionage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t...
- smt88 5y ago
  > It is a part of the industrial policy of China that broadly raises living standard and wealth of the society. I agree. It doesn't contradict what I said, though. Both are true. > only true in sense that economic growth may increase the ruling party's popularity No. It also gives them better weapons, AI, surveillance technology, etc. It literally increases their power, both abroad and within their borders. CCP's popularity is guaranteed because it is criminal in China to tell negative truths about them. Their popularity is irrelevant because they have control over the entire country's military and surveillance networks. If they can intern and slaughter millions of Uyghurs, it's almost impossible for a rebellion to overthrow them. They don't need this program for popularity.

It is a part of the industrial policy of China that broadly raises living standard and wealth of the society. It also opens up the Chinese society for foreign influence and sends millions abroad for studies. The idea that this is to "increase the power of the CCP" is only true in sense that economic growth may increase the ruling party's popularity. In classic dictatorship thinking sending your best students abroad and accepting foreign educators is the last thing you would want to do.

defaultprimate 5y ago
Sending your best abroad while you hold their family at gunpoint locally is how you cultivate absolute loyalty and subvert adversarial thought and nations. The best way to defeat your enemy is to understand them. That's why you consistently see Chinese born, US citizens with decades of time in the states prosecuted for espionage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t...
smt88 5y ago
> It is a part of the industrial policy of China that broadly raises living standard and wealth of the society. I agree. It doesn't contradict what I said, though. Both are true. > only true in sense that economic growth may increase the ruling party's popularity No. It also gives them better weapons, AI, surveillance technology, etc. It literally increases their power, both abroad and within their borders. CCP's popularity is guaranteed because it is criminal in China to tell negative truths about them. Their popularity is irrelevant because they have control over the entire country's military and surveillance networks. If they can intern and slaughter millions of Uyghurs, it's almost impossible for a rebellion to overthrow them. They don't need this program for popularity.