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This is the first step we've taken towards the bigger goal of ensuring truthfulness of the experiences on the resume. But for now, it does two things - ensures

This is the first step we've taken towards the bigger goal of ensuring truthfulness of the experiences on the resume. But for now, it does two things - ensures the resume has not been altered since created (think recruiter's incentives to do so) and serves as a promise from the job seeker that the resume is truthful. We're just launching, so let's see how it evolves over time

Hamuko 5y ago
>ensures the resume has not been altered since created (think recruiter's incentives to do so) How often do recruiters actually modify your PDF resume after you submit it? Why would they do that when the company can just verify its contents on LinkedIn? Do you actually have any kind of data on this? And if you're actually worried about rogue recruiters modifying your resume after you make it, why would you not sign your PDF? >serves as a promise from the job seeker that the resume is truthful. Because it's on the blockchain it's not bullshit? This is quite honestly one of the dumber product pitches I have heard in a while. It sounds like you just pulled a word out of the hat to figure out what to blockchainify next.
- jacob_rezi 5y ago
  let me answer these questions in a year once we've had time to see the result. The feature comes from asking our users what they'd like to see improved on our existing software. The topics of trust/authenticity have been left unexplored in relation to the resume. We'll gladly be the first.
beachy 5y ago
I still don't get it - when you give your resume to a recruiter they can rework it as they see fit, but they can't change your original. That's on your hard drive/wherever. What does Blockchain add to that? And as to a promise that the resume is truthful - thats just your assurance, what does block chain have to do with that either? Asking with genuine interest as we are in the HR space so often discussing these sort of things.
- jacob_rezi 5y ago
  > That's on your hard drive/wherever. What does Blockchain add to that? Whomever is responsible for hiring can instantly and independently verify the authenticity of the resume without the friction of communicating with the applicant. > And as to a promise that the resume is truthful - thats just your assurance, what does block chain have to do with that either? We've seen lying on the resume as a huge problem that we haven't been able to tackle. Perhaps making a record of this assurance will discourage job seekers from lying.
  - Jasper_ 5y ago
    > Whomever is responsible for hiring can instantly and independently verify the authenticity of the resume without the friction of communicating with the applicant. How does whoever is responsible for hiring know to look for it on the blockchain? I have a blockchain verified resume, the recruiter exports it to PDF and modifies it, and erases any words about the blockchain from that copy. If the hiring manager is going to go looking somewhere else to check if it's on the blockchain, they can already just look at my website or my LinkedIn.
alasdair_ 5y ago
> serves as a promise from the job seeker that the resume is truthful. Isn’t that sort of implied when someone gives you a resume? Have you noticed a lot of job applicants saying things like “that pdf I gave you? Total bullshit, I made it all up. But this? This is real, because blockchain!”? Also, do you even store the resume on the blockchain, or do you just store a url? If the latter, what happens when the original owner of the dns name sells it to someone else who replaces your “blockchain verified” resume with goatse?
- jacob_rezi 5y ago
  I should not have googled goatse... Unfortunately lying on a resume remains a huge problem that has been left untouched. We've lead innovation in the space of resume software for the past couple of years now, so adding this download option is a step towards the solution.
  - basch 5y ago
    Like how chess computers have changed how humans play chess, the recursive GPT-3 + marking gobbledygook feedback loop has made humans who write like computers. I cant tell if the post im replying to is a person being serious, a computer being serious, a person being a troll, or a computer emulating trolls. Or a cyborg hybrid of all the above. The whole post reads extremely formulaic. Repeat what what was just said -> "Unfortunately lying on a resume remains a huge problem that has been left untouched." Made up claim of leadership in a non existent field -> "We've lead innovation in the space of resume software for the past couple of years now" Future promise to keep attention, or claim of something new that is identical to old -> "so adding this download option is a step towards the solution" = no
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
You just need bog-standard ancient cryptographic signatures for that. Aside from bockchain-hype, what value does using a blockchain bring to the table?

Hamuko 5y ago

>ensures the resume has not been altered since created (think recruiter's incentives to do so) How often do recruiters actually modify your PDF resume after you submit it? Why would they do that when the company can just verify its contents on LinkedIn? Do you actually have any kind of data on this? And if you're actually worried about rogue recruiters modifying your resume after you make it, why would you not sign your PDF? >serves as a promise from the job seeker that the resume is truthful. Because it's on the blockchain it's not bullshit? This is quite honestly one of the dumber product pitches I have heard in a while. It sounds like you just pulled a word out of the hat to figure out what to blockchainify next.

jacob_rezi 5y ago
let me answer these questions in a year once we've had time to see the result. The feature comes from asking our users what they'd like to see improved on our existing software. The topics of trust/authenticity have been left unexplored in relation to the resume. We'll gladly be the first.

beachy 5y ago

I still don't get it - when you give your resume to a recruiter they can rework it as they see fit, but they can't change your original. That's on your hard drive/wherever. What does Blockchain add to that? And as to a promise that the resume is truthful - thats just your assurance, what does block chain have to do with that either? Asking with genuine interest as we are in the HR space so often discussing these sort of things.

jacob_rezi 5y ago
> That's on your hard drive/wherever. What does Blockchain add to that? Whomever is responsible for hiring can instantly and independently verify the authenticity of the resume without the friction of communicating with the applicant. > And as to a promise that the resume is truthful - thats just your assurance, what does block chain have to do with that either? We've seen lying on the resume as a huge problem that we haven't been able to tackle. Perhaps making a record of this assurance will discourage job seekers from lying.
- Jasper_ 5y ago
  > Whomever is responsible for hiring can instantly and independently verify the authenticity of the resume without the friction of communicating with the applicant. How does whoever is responsible for hiring know to look for it on the blockchain? I have a blockchain verified resume, the recruiter exports it to PDF and modifies it, and erases any words about the blockchain from that copy. If the hiring manager is going to go looking somewhere else to check if it's on the blockchain, they can already just look at my website or my LinkedIn.

alasdair_ 5y ago

> serves as a promise from the job seeker that the resume is truthful. Isn’t that sort of implied when someone gives you a resume? Have you noticed a lot of job applicants saying things like “that pdf I gave you? Total bullshit, I made it all up. But this? This is real, because blockchain!”? Also, do you even store the resume on the blockchain, or do you just store a url? If the latter, what happens when the original owner of the dns name sells it to someone else who replaces your “blockchain verified” resume with goatse?

jacob_rezi 5y ago
I should not have googled goatse... Unfortunately lying on a resume remains a huge problem that has been left untouched. We've lead innovation in the space of resume software for the past couple of years now, so adding this download option is a step towards the solution.
- basch 5y ago
  Like how chess computers have changed how humans play chess, the recursive GPT-3 + marking gobbledygook feedback loop has made humans who write like computers. I cant tell if the post im replying to is a person being serious, a computer being serious, a person being a troll, or a computer emulating trolls. Or a cyborg hybrid of all the above. The whole post reads extremely formulaic. Repeat what what was just said -> "Unfortunately lying on a resume remains a huge problem that has been left untouched." Made up claim of leadership in a non existent field -> "We've lead innovation in the space of resume software for the past couple of years now" Future promise to keep attention, or claim of something new that is identical to old -> "so adding this download option is a step towards the solution" = no

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

You just need bog-standard ancient cryptographic signatures for that. Aside from bockchain-hype, what value does using a blockchain bring to the table?