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> novice human driver with just ~100 hours of experience So a 100 hour old infant?

• pavel_lishin 5y ago
  I occasionally drive in the NYC metro area, and I'm pretty sure a 100 hour old infant could drive better than some of the folks I'm sharing the road with.
• Jensson 5y ago
  Many animals can walk and navigate environments better at 100 hours old than todays self driving cars can. Here is a 50 hour old horse, imagine if our self driving cars had this level of environmental awareness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEMh-_vaME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEMh-_vaME
  • 999900000999 5y ago
    This sounds like a start of a dystopian novel, where animal brains are being shoved into various robots. And that a researcher who's trying to stop it, ultimately fails and he's also turned into a robot.
    • Jensson 5y ago
      I wonder what comes first, engineered biological brains that we can put in things like cars or that machine learning has progressed to the point we no longer need biological brains. Biological brains are super cheap and efficient though. The brain of a fly can still do object recognition and navigate environments for basically free, weighs less than a milligram including cameras, and the factory to produce those brains is just putting a cell in a wet environment and it builds itself, the brain of an ant can build complex structures etc. It is possible metal brains will never beat those.
    • lazide 5y ago
      If only you didn’t have to pay them so much it could happen? (Only a little /s)
    • YeGoblynQueenne 5y ago
      I seem to remember a short story by James Tiptree Jr. who had a somewhat similar theme. In the story it was children born with deformities who were given robotic bodies and then spaceships to navigate, if I remember correctly.
  • Animats 5y ago
    Horses (actually, all the equines) are able to stand within minutes of birth, and run with the herd within hours. This indicates how much is built in before any learning, a useful data point. (Amusingly, while standing up is clearly built in - foals usually stand on the first try - lying down is not. I've seen a newborn foal try to lie down for the first time, and after moving a few legs, just collapsing to the ground. This makes sense - there's a survival advantage to being able to stand up quickly and reliably, while being able to lie down and rest quickly need not work as well.
    • YeGoblynQueenne 5y ago
      >> This indicates how much is built in before any learning, a useful data point. Animals have a heck of a lot of background knowledge like that. Statistical machine learning algorithms can't incorporate background knowledge [edit: not easily] and have to learn everything end-to-end. Hence why they remain dumb as bricks, compared to even simple animals (like insects, which are "simple" only compared to mammals, say).