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>How could it be harder to move civilians and a wooden plank compared to a locked SUV? Aha One is a locked SUV whose windows are designed to be broken easily a

>How could it be harder to move civilians and a wooden plank compared to a locked SUV? Aha One is a locked SUV whose windows are designed to be broken easily and safely in case of emergencies, pop into neutral and push out of the way sort of quickly (depending on whether or not there's even enough time to do that, but I digress). This SUV has wheels whose direction you can adjust in order to to help maneuver the vehicle easily. The other is a structure often built considerably longer than even a few SUV lengths, weighed down so that guests and weather don't move it, and made out of material that is considerably less easy to break through in an emergency situation than the aforementioned tempered/laminated safety glass. Said structures may even contain even more hazards - eg, gas-powered heat lamps - than you would find in a traditional parking space. This structure is bulky and doesn't have wheels to help change the direction you want to move it in. >Imagine thinking this with a straight face. The irony...

kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
> pop into neutral Not doable in most modern cars without the key.
- handrous 5y ago
  Really? That's a development I wasn't aware of. I'd also assumed that was the easy answer to "it's an actual emergency and we need to move this SUV". They really lock the car from shifting into neutral without a key? [EDIT] The more I think about this the more it bothers me. Being able to shift even if the car is partially disabled—including, quite possibly, whatever's responsible for reading a modern electronic key—is really important for safety, and also for generally dealing with a disabled car after it's come to a stop, which can also be safety-related if you're trying to, say, get it off a busy highway. Especially being able to get into neutral. That there's any possible way that failures in not-strictly-necessary-for-shifting systems could block that seems crazy to me.
  - jjulius 5y ago
    They're not wrong, but they're also not entirely correct. Many vehicles have a panel beneath the wheel that has a release inside it for such a situation. It's just not easy/convenient. But playing devil's advocate, assuming that no modern car can be popped into neutral without a key, a car is still much more favorable than many parklets. You can easily break the glass to run firehouses through, or you can more easily run the hose over/under/around it because it's a smaller object than an outdoor dining space. Emergency crews can run between parked cars, but there often aren't any such opportunities in a 16-foot parklet.

kevin_thibedeau 5y ago

> pop into neutral Not doable in most modern cars without the key.

handrous 5y ago
Really? That's a development I wasn't aware of. I'd also assumed that was the easy answer to "it's an actual emergency and we need to move this SUV". They really lock the car from shifting into neutral without a key? [EDIT] The more I think about this the more it bothers me. Being able to shift even if the car is partially disabled—including, quite possibly, whatever's responsible for reading a modern electronic key—is really important for safety, and also for generally dealing with a disabled car after it's come to a stop, which can also be safety-related if you're trying to, say, get it off a busy highway. Especially being able to get into neutral. That there's any possible way that failures in not-strictly-necessary-for-shifting systems could block that seems crazy to me.
- jjulius 5y ago
  They're not wrong, but they're also not entirely correct. Many vehicles have a panel beneath the wheel that has a release inside it for such a situation. It's just not easy/convenient. But playing devil's advocate, assuming that no modern car can be popped into neutral without a key, a car is still much more favorable than many parklets. You can easily break the glass to run firehouses through, or you can more easily run the hose over/under/around it because it's a smaller object than an outdoor dining space. Emergency crews can run between parked cars, but there often aren't any such opportunities in a 16-foot parklet.