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I would recommend watching the original, personally. The new movies are sharper and brighter, but lack character.

p_l 5y ago
I have yet to finish the last two movies, but I found the first two a lot more interesting if viewed through the idea that they actually continue from EoE (considering Kaworu's words at the end of 2.22)
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  I fully support watching the last two movies. Just the recap movies lose so much character compared to the original.
  - p_l 5y ago
    Oh, sure, on the first look at 1.11 it felt dangerously close to losing a lot of the character to me - it was 2.22 that made it work, partially because of what I mentioned :)
    - Pxtl 5y ago
      1.11 felt completely unnecessary to me, personally. It didn't add anything to the original story, and took away too much. The only real achievement for me was the final battle, since the octohedron angel was otherwise a forgettable villain-of-the-week episode. The sequels that stop tracking so close to the original is where it takes off. I still prefer the original but it didn't feel like a simple re-make at that point.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        If you watched it instead of the episodes it could be seen as a mine death/rebirth, but agreed. 2.22 is the best!
        p_l 5y ago
        1.11 was IMO important to prepare the ground for 2.22 - some subtle differences exist and by not following exact the original story it makes 2.22 stand out more. But by itself it's not that great - probably helps a lot that I watched 1.11 and 2.22 pretty much back to back.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      2.22 was the peak of the rebuild. I’d have loved it way more if it ended right there. Best character development, most interesting angels (except clocky), Mari has potential and wasn’t another caricature, all downhill 3.33 was little more than a drawn out and more boring episode 24 with 2 interesting fights.
- namelessoracle 5y ago
  The rebuild movies are pretty explicit sequels.
diveanon 5y ago
Agreed, the newest movie in particular was borderline unwatchable. It was entirely technobabble and metaphysical nonsense with no character development.
- EamonnMR 5y ago
  The whole villiage sequence was character development? I agree that the CGI scenes where kind of weaker than the old animated fights.
  - ayngg 5y ago
    As cheesy as it sounds, afterwards I sort of felt like the bad cg (and copy pasting assets) was intentional. Maybe it was meant to contrast the eva specific parts with the rest of the regularly animated sequences with human characters. The scene that made me think this way was near the end the giant Rei head exploded into a bunch of 3d eva models (about 2:20), where afterwards they decided to animate the contrasting scene with humans without 3d, which was probably so much more work that I felt it must have been intentional for some reason.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      I thought it was for fakery but I don’t know, 2.22 had excellent 3D.
- Pxtl 5y ago
  That's more the weakness of the 3rd than the 4th. The third movie felt like there was a whole volume between part 2 and part 3 that was missing - I get the appeal of telling the story from Shinji's perspective and starting in media res, but you can't just use terms like "failed infinities" and the "chamber of guf" without a little establishing context. The 4th brings it back somewhat, but ultimately the finale is still the typical Eva "here's a bunch of religious babble half-explaining what happens overlaid with crazy imagery" which imho had its last hurrah in EoE.
  - 5y ago
elihu 5y ago
I think the movies are a lot more focused on just on the main characters, which is a bit of a shame because one of the great things about the original show was that in the later episodes it becomes increasingly more apparent that most of the adults have serious issues too. They're just able to hide it better than Shinji, Rei, and Asuka. I can kind of understand though not wanting to just repeat the exact same content, just with a higher budget.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Classsmates got development in 3.0+1.0
  - elihu 5y ago
    That's true.
michalf6 5y ago
Only the original series + EoE is worth watching "seriously", rebuilds are sort of a troll commentary on the public reception of the original show, Anno went like "You want more Eva? I'll give you what you want. Are you not entertained?". They are well worth watching too, but you need to be aware of the context to fully appreciate the message. This guy explains it perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIvs0Q-uKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIvs0Q-uKI
- dclowd9901 5y ago
  The new series is not a “troll”. And clearly watching it you can see as much. It feels like the story Anno always wanted to tell but didn’t have the mental or emotional space to do it in. The story is fully realized and I think it’s actually the most faithful telling of Eva of anything released thus far. I’d even go so far as to say skip the original series and just watch Rebuild. It’s that good.

p_l 5y ago

I have yet to finish the last two movies, but I found the first two a lot more interesting if viewed through the idea that they actually continue from EoE (considering Kaworu's words at the end of 2.22)

ErikVandeWater 5y ago
I fully support watching the last two movies. Just the recap movies lose so much character compared to the original.
- p_l 5y ago
  Oh, sure, on the first look at 1.11 it felt dangerously close to losing a lot of the character to me - it was 2.22 that made it work, partially because of what I mentioned :)
  - Pxtl 5y ago
    1.11 felt completely unnecessary to me, personally. It didn't add anything to the original story, and took away too much. The only real achievement for me was the final battle, since the octohedron angel was otherwise a forgettable villain-of-the-week episode. The sequels that stop tracking so close to the original is where it takes off. I still prefer the original but it didn't feel like a simple re-make at that point.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      If you watched it instead of the episodes it could be seen as a mine death/rebirth, but agreed. 2.22 is the best!
      - p_l 5y ago
        1.11 was IMO important to prepare the ground for 2.22 - some subtle differences exist and by not following exact the original story it makes 2.22 stand out more. But by itself it's not that great - probably helps a lot that I watched 1.11 and 2.22 pretty much back to back.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    2.22 was the peak of the rebuild. I’d have loved it way more if it ended right there. Best character development, most interesting angels (except clocky), Mari has potential and wasn’t another caricature, all downhill 3.33 was little more than a drawn out and more boring episode 24 with 2 interesting fights.
namelessoracle 5y ago
The rebuild movies are pretty explicit sequels.

diveanon 5y ago

Agreed, the newest movie in particular was borderline unwatchable. It was entirely technobabble and metaphysical nonsense with no character development.

EamonnMR 5y ago
The whole villiage sequence was character development? I agree that the CGI scenes where kind of weaker than the old animated fights.
- ayngg 5y ago
  As cheesy as it sounds, afterwards I sort of felt like the bad cg (and copy pasting assets) was intentional. Maybe it was meant to contrast the eva specific parts with the rest of the regularly animated sequences with human characters. The scene that made me think this way was near the end the giant Rei head exploded into a bunch of 3d eva models (about 2:20), where afterwards they decided to animate the contrasting scene with humans without 3d, which was probably so much more work that I felt it must have been intentional for some reason.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    I thought it was for fakery but I don’t know, 2.22 had excellent 3D.
Pxtl 5y ago
That's more the weakness of the 3rd than the 4th. The third movie felt like there was a whole volume between part 2 and part 3 that was missing - I get the appeal of telling the story from Shinji's perspective and starting in media res, but you can't just use terms like "failed infinities" and the "chamber of guf" without a little establishing context. The 4th brings it back somewhat, but ultimately the finale is still the typical Eva "here's a bunch of religious babble half-explaining what happens overlaid with crazy imagery" which imho had its last hurrah in EoE.
- 5y ago

elihu 5y ago

I think the movies are a lot more focused on just on the main characters, which is a bit of a shame because one of the great things about the original show was that in the later episodes it becomes increasingly more apparent that most of the adults have serious issues too. They're just able to hide it better than Shinji, Rei, and Asuka. I can kind of understand though not wanting to just repeat the exact same content, just with a higher budget.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Classsmates got development in 3.0+1.0
- elihu 5y ago
  That's true.

michalf6 5y ago

Only the original series + EoE is worth watching "seriously", rebuilds are sort of a troll commentary on the public reception of the original show, Anno went like "You want more Eva? I'll give you what you want. Are you not entertained?". They are well worth watching too, but you need to be aware of the context to fully appreciate the message. This guy explains it perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIvs0Q-uKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIvs0Q-uKI

dclowd9901 5y ago
The new series is not a “troll”. And clearly watching it you can see as much. It feels like the story Anno always wanted to tell but didn’t have the mental or emotional space to do it in. The story is fully realized and I think it’s actually the most faithful telling of Eva of anything released thus far. I’d even go so far as to say skip the original series and just watch Rebuild. It’s that good.