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It seemed great, but then I read: founder of a blockchain-based SIEM startup Now I'm worried for Bulgaria.

by yumraj 5y ago

MitPitt 5y ago
Why?
- renzo88 5y ago
  "blockchain based siem" is a completely useless phrase.
  - mlinksva 5y ago
    I wonder what "blockchain" means here. The word is all over https://logsentinel.com/ https://logsentinel.com/ but it may be just to make "immutable audit trail" more buzzwordy. In 2017 they posted a skeptical https://techblog.bozho.net/blockchain-its-all-greek-to-me/ https://techblog.bozho.net/blockchain-its-all-greek-to-me/ which in linked to from very recent https://techblog.bozho.net/digital-transformation-and-technological-utopianism/ https://techblog.bozho.net/digital-transformation-and-techno... > Technology alone will not solve anything. And my blockchain skepticism is a hint in that direction – many blockchain enthusiasts are claiming that blockchain will solve many problems in many areas of life. It won’t. At least not just through clever cryptography and consensus algorithms.
    - bozho 5y ago
      It's exactly that marketing worda for tamper-evident audit log
      - mlinksva 5y ago
        I'm a bit sad that marketing words work on customers, but that's just how the world is apparently. :) Thanks for the reply and major congratulations and good luck!
dinkblam 5y ago
same here, couldn't agree more
littlestymaar 5y ago
From looking quickly at their product, it seems that the “blockchain” part of it is mostly here as a marketing buzzword more than anything: It seems that they are building a Merkle tree of logs and calling that a blockchain (you know, like the famous blockchain project called git).
- tobyjsullivan 5y ago
  I know you say this in jest but, now that you mention it, wouldn't git be a blockchain if it just had a decentralized consensus protocol to allow a cluster of repo servers to agree on the current state? I'm usually the last person in the world to say anything should be on a blockchain but I feel something like this could be handy for hosting open source projects.
  - thecupisblue 5y ago
    It actually is a blockchain, just that it outsources a part of work to humans.
  - hippich 5y ago
    git IS blockchain without Proof-of-Work. So yeah, if you can add PoF somehow on top of it - you will get something somewhat like bitcoin-like stuff :)))
    - necovek 5y ago
      Well, calculating those commit hashes is work :)
  - littlestymaar 5y ago
    It won't be a blockchain anyway, because the data structure is a DAG (Directed acyclic graph) and not a freaking Linked list like blockchains! And there's no need to agree on anything between repos, heck git allows you not to agree with yourself on your own repo between different branches. Git actually works completely fine between a number of different repository (the UX isn't great of course, but which part of git's UX is…).

It seemed great, but then I read: founder of a blockchain-based SIEM startup Now I'm worried for Bulgaria.

by yumraj 5y ago

It seemed great, but then I read: founder of a blockchain-based SIEM startup Now I'm worried for Bulgaria.

MitPitt 5y ago

Why?

renzo88 5y ago
"blockchain based siem" is a completely useless phrase.
- mlinksva 5y ago
  I wonder what "blockchain" means here. The word is all over https://logsentinel.com/ https://logsentinel.com/ but it may be just to make "immutable audit trail" more buzzwordy. In 2017 they posted a skeptical https://techblog.bozho.net/blockchain-its-all-greek-to-me/ https://techblog.bozho.net/blockchain-its-all-greek-to-me/ which in linked to from very recent https://techblog.bozho.net/digital-transformation-and-technological-utopianism/ https://techblog.bozho.net/digital-transformation-and-techno... > Technology alone will not solve anything. And my blockchain skepticism is a hint in that direction – many blockchain enthusiasts are claiming that blockchain will solve many problems in many areas of life. It won’t. At least not just through clever cryptography and consensus algorithms.
  - bozho 5y ago
    It's exactly that marketing worda for tamper-evident audit log
    - mlinksva 5y ago
      I'm a bit sad that marketing words work on customers, but that's just how the world is apparently. :) Thanks for the reply and major congratulations and good luck!

dinkblam 5y ago

same here, couldn't agree more

littlestymaar 5y ago

From looking quickly at their product, it seems that the “blockchain” part of it is mostly here as a marketing buzzword more than anything: It seems that they are building a Merkle tree of logs and calling that a blockchain (you know, like the famous blockchain project called git).

tobyjsullivan 5y ago
I know you say this in jest but, now that you mention it, wouldn't git be a blockchain if it just had a decentralized consensus protocol to allow a cluster of repo servers to agree on the current state? I'm usually the last person in the world to say anything should be on a blockchain but I feel something like this could be handy for hosting open source projects.
- thecupisblue 5y ago
  It actually is a blockchain, just that it outsources a part of work to humans.
- hippich 5y ago
  git IS blockchain without Proof-of-Work. So yeah, if you can add PoF somehow on top of it - you will get something somewhat like bitcoin-like stuff :)))
  - necovek 5y ago
    Well, calculating those commit hashes is work :)
- littlestymaar 5y ago
  It won't be a blockchain anyway, because the data structure is a DAG (Directed acyclic graph) and not a freaking Linked list like blockchains! And there's no need to agree on anything between repos, heck git allows you not to agree with yourself on your own repo between different branches. Git actually works completely fine between a number of different repository (the UX isn't great of course, but which part of git's UX is…).