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"We can't save human lives by not forcing them to come into work at the threat of firing and loss of livelihood because we might accidentally save a life that w

"We can't save human lives by not forcing them to come into work at the threat of firing and loss of livelihood because we might accidentally save a life that wasn't in danger if we let employees make that risk assessment for themselves by giving them the option to choose." As far as the manager knows its none of their fucking business because the employee should be the one who makes that call about their personal safety, not their manager, and said employee can't freely make that call if they face reprisal or loss of promotion for doing so.

dave78 5y ago
You're clearly trying to use this tragedy to push some sort of anti-capitalist mission, so I know you will not be willing to see anyone else's point of view. For the benefit of others, though, here is the map the NWS issued showing areas of concern: https://twitter.com/NWSSPC/status/1469445198501408774 https://twitter.com/NWSSPC/status/1469445198501408774 Note that tornados occurred that night in areas well beyond just the red zone. So, to be "safe" (though being home is not necessarily safer - not everyone has basements and many people live on 2nd-floor apartments, etc.), should we have told everyone at least in the "ENH" area (covering major portions of 6 states) to stay home and in their basement for the whole night?
- MrStonedOne 5y ago
  >should we have told everyone at least in the "ENH" area (covering major portions of 6 states) to stay home and in their basement for the whole night? Yes.
  - dave78 5y ago
    As someone else said, "evidence you have never lived in the midwest." That enhanced area covers St. Louis, Indianapolis, Louisville, Nashville, and Memphis. Millions and millions of people that you expect to spend the night in their basements (many of which don't even have a basement), on the still-very-remote chance they may get hit by a tornado. Even in this abnormally bad outbreak, we're talking about just 100s of people impacted. The risk is just not high enough for that kind of response.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  Stay home, yes. The point of staying at home is to be near your basement if you have one, so the part about staying in your basement all night is silly. We've had people telling us to stay home for two years to dodge a particularly dangerous cold, so if the idea that not having a single night shift during such a rare and predictable weather situation is supposed to be shocking on its face, I'm not feeling it.

dave78 5y ago

You're clearly trying to use this tragedy to push some sort of anti-capitalist mission, so I know you will not be willing to see anyone else's point of view. For the benefit of others, though, here is the map the NWS issued showing areas of concern: https://twitter.com/NWSSPC/status/1469445198501408774 https://twitter.com/NWSSPC/status/1469445198501408774 Note that tornados occurred that night in areas well beyond just the red zone. So, to be "safe" (though being home is not necessarily safer - not everyone has basements and many people live on 2nd-floor apartments, etc.), should we have told everyone at least in the "ENH" area (covering major portions of 6 states) to stay home and in their basement for the whole night?

MrStonedOne 5y ago
>should we have told everyone at least in the "ENH" area (covering major portions of 6 states) to stay home and in their basement for the whole night? Yes.
- dave78 5y ago
  As someone else said, "evidence you have never lived in the midwest." That enhanced area covers St. Louis, Indianapolis, Louisville, Nashville, and Memphis. Millions and millions of people that you expect to spend the night in their basements (many of which don't even have a basement), on the still-very-remote chance they may get hit by a tornado. Even in this abnormally bad outbreak, we're talking about just 100s of people impacted. The risk is just not high enough for that kind of response.
pessimizer 5y ago
Stay home, yes. The point of staying at home is to be near your basement if you have one, so the part about staying in your basement all night is silly. We've had people telling us to stay home for two years to dodge a particularly dangerous cold, so if the idea that not having a single night shift during such a rare and predictable weather situation is supposed to be shocking on its face, I'm not feeling it.